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SpeechlessDem Donating Member (48 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-10 12:31 PM
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Indian kids miles ahead of white counterparts
Source: MSN

London: Indian and Chinese students, who lag behind at age five, outshine white British children in exams when they reach age 16, a study has revealed.

The research suggested that peer pressure may influence how well different groups work at their studies.

Pupils who belong to ethnic minorities struggle to grasp English when they start schooling but they catch up with their white British counterparts and even outperform them as their language skills improve.



Read more: http://education.in.msn.com/news/article.aspx?cp-documentid=4384451



This is quite interesting and I thought I should share it!

A company that my company recently acquired tried their best to find local talent for programming, but they found almost none, the market was incredibly dry.
They kept hiring local talent but those programmers are just programmers that know a little coding but go to programming website forums asking for help, which delays delivery times.

So they started outsourcing to India, some consultants from India came over here and they were amazed at their level of intelligence and proficiency in programming and code logic and software architecture.

We are so behind!
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-10 12:34 PM
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-10 12:37 PM
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-10 12:36 PM
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2. Unrec
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totodeinhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-10 12:42 PM
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6. Why?
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-10 12:39 PM
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4. Welcome to DU..
I hope you enjoy your stay.

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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-10 12:40 PM
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5. While some of them are equivalent dunderheads
the vast majority of kids who learn second languages at a young age do outperform their peers in a variety of skills.

As for a local talent search for good programmers, I doubt it would have come up quite as dry were they to offer wages commensurate with skill levels and to consider programmers over the age of 45.

When employers cry about not being able to find workers to fill jobs they have to offer, always ask them what those jobs are paying. That's usually the reason they can't find anyone.

I know too many people who are desperate for work in a variety of fields to believe it's anything but refusal to accept starvation wages that keeps jobs from being filled.
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Book Lover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-10 12:46 PM
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8. +1
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-10 12:52 PM
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9. that just skims the surface of what is really a shallow OP.
Edited on Thu Sep-16-10 12:53 PM by xchrom
and the OP and the article offers little serious insight.

what about indian/english and chinese/english students who have been there for several generations?
how people of all stripes react to poverty, job stresses at home, etc.

there are myriad unanswered -- yet vaguely proposed questions here.
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Democrats_win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-10 12:44 PM
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7. Yes, but we have smarter bankers.
You know, the ones who stole everyone's money. The structural problems of an economic system that rewards banksters is having an effect. For 20 years the best and most stable jobs were in all areas of banking and finance.
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SpeechlessDem Donating Member (48 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-10 01:07 PM
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10. Guys Listen!
I understand what you guys are saying, but understand that's it's a difficult reality to come to accept.

Yes there are alot of older programmers out there, but many, not all, of those programmers are not proficient in .NET or component oriented programming.

Some older programmers are still using Visual Basic 6, or Powerbuilder and some even RPG or Cobol.

They are not able to comprehend .NET

Yes there are some out there who kept with the times and upgraded their skills, the company was ready to pay around 70-80k, but the number of such people were very low and not enough to have a programming dept. here locally.

Guys i've been on the receiving end of getting resumes for jobs posted online for the IT sector, I got alot of trash!

Posting jobs online doesn't work, you get mostly trash, finding good programmers only happens though knowing someone who knows someone often, and that is too time consuming for a business.

The fact is that it's a hard difficult reality to face, but now that we understand it's a reality let's tackle it instead of bickering and saying "no no this is not true", bickering is not a solution!

Everyone complains but no one has a solution!!!!!
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iamtechus Donating Member (868 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-10 01:33 PM
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11. These kids?



Don’t be fooled by India’s economic boom – for a vast swathe of the population the situation has not improved in generations. Hundreds of millions are trapped by caste and gender discrimination, and by the cycle of: poverty--> child labour-->no education-->poverty. These people endure some of the worst conditions experienced anywhere in the world. For instance, an Indian child is more likely to be malnourished, have inadequate sanitation, not attend school, remain illiterate and marry underage, than is a child from Africa or any other global region.


http://www.i-indiaonline.com/

http://indiastreetchildren.org/
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cosmicone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-10 02:35 PM
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12. The reality is different. You are going by myths.
India made significant progress in poverty reduction: UN

united nations India made significant progress in poverty reduction: UNA UN report says India has made significant progress in poverty reduction and the number of poor people in the country is expected to half of the 1990 level by 2015.

According to the 2010 report of the United Nations on the Millennium Development Goals (MDGs), While India is expected to reduce its poverty rate from 51 per cent in 1990 to 24 per cent in 2015, reducing its number of extremely poor by 188 million. The report said, India has also contributed to the large reduction in global poverty.

But the rest of South Asia and sub-Saharan Africa are falling behind in meeting the target of reducing poverty by half by 2015.

The overall poverty rate is expected to fall to 15 per cent by 2015, which translates into around 920 million people living under international poverty line- half the number in 1990. Poverty rates in China are also expected to fall by 5 per cent.

http://www.samachartoday.com/india-made-significant-progress-in-poverty-reduction-un/6168

In every aspect of improving people's lives, India has made stellar progress from where India was at the time of independence.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-10 07:29 PM
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14. This is about kids in England of Indian parentage. Nt
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-10 02:40 PM
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13. No, not those kids.
The study was of students in Britain. Therefore the Indian students were the children of immigrants.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-10 08:11 PM
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15. Pepperoni?
Extra cheese?
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