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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-11 11:10 PM
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No pay raise for the rest of your career
Suburban district here is considering freezing salaries for veteran teachers (10 years plus) so they can pay new teachers more.

Good grief.

No link. Just saw this on my local news.

This is getting insane folks.
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-11 11:33 PM
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1. If it is a fixed pot, those kinds of trades as well as benefits and pensions are all going to be
looked at, and to some point up for discussion. Here in CA, its a shrinking pot

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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-11 12:45 AM
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2. It should do the trick: ending teaching as a career....
.... a long-held goal of school privatizers.

Meanwhile.... the Obama "left" is in a coma over this issue.
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FBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-11 07:46 AM
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3. It's only "insane" when it happens to you.
Edited on Wed Jan-19-11 07:47 AM by FBaggins
Been happening all over lately.

On edit - Of course I meant that "you" in the generic sense.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-11 01:56 PM
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4. It's a massive campaign to remove baby boomers from the workforce
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FBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-11 02:09 PM
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5. Not necessarily.
It may just be a cynical recognition of reality. There aren't many jobs out there to go to, so you're (the school system) not competing much for that talent. Your senior people aren't going to walk out on you for a better job... because they're aren't many of them.

But you still need a supply of talent for the next ten/twenty years. You can't just stop hiring or ten years from now when those senior educators retire, there won't be enough middle-experience people to step into those roles. So you need to attract some new people and retain most of the ones with middlin experience (3-5 years).

Alternatively, it could just be a recognition of a different painful reality. Some people need raises more than others. That doesn't mean that you aren't worthy of a raise, but that hard economic times have hit others harder and there are only so many dollars to go around. I've had excellent reviews for the last three cycles, but have essentially gone without a raise because we have new people in the department who can't be left at the starting salary forever.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-11 07:29 PM
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6. So teachers with one year making $30K
need a raise more than teachers with 10 years making $40K??

The more they play these games with our salaries, the more the seniority system makes sense.
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FBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-11 10:49 PM
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9. They probably do.
Not that it makes it right...

but there's lots of that going around these days.
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lifesbeautifulmagic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-11 10:18 PM
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7. this whole freaking recession/depression
is a campaign to remove baby boomers from the workforce. Ask me, I know. Ask my husband, he also knows.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-11 10:44 PM
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8. Oh of course it is
Baby boomers are expendable.
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vim876 Donating Member (268 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-11 06:46 PM
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10. Right...because it's so easy
for the rest of us. It's not like unemployment numbers for young people are way above those for everyone else, or anything. It's all about boomers.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-11 08:42 AM
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11. The easiest way to reduce budgets
is to get of the highest paid employees.

And if this is how the most senior employees are treated, how well do you think the younger ones will be treated?
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-11 10:41 AM
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12. Salaries of all those *administrators* however are sacrosanct I take it? Rec'd n/t
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n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-11 01:09 PM
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13. Gonna be that way for everybody but the "leaders" n/t
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