In an ideal education system, what would happen after a student failed?

Boojatta

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Sun Feb-24-08 06:02 PM
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Poll question: In an ideal education system, what would happen after a student failed?

Edited on Sun Feb-24-08 06:04 PM by Boojatta

Obviously some students -- for example, most students in law school -- have the option of switching to a different field of study or discontinuing formal education. If compulsory education is based on age, then some students might receive failing grades a very short time before they are old enough that they don't have to continue.

However, for this poll I want you to think of students who will continue their formal education and study the same subject area that they failed.

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flor de jasmim

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Sun Feb-24-08 06:04 PM
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1. It depends on the subject matter and the initial reason(s) for failure.

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tluvstigr

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Sun Feb-24-08 06:10 PM
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2. Have to agree

I have to agree that ultimately it depends on the reason for failure. If the student hasn't really done their part to completing the course load, then it's their own fault. But if it's simply because they don't know the material or maybe the teacher sucks. Who knows but really it just depends on how and why they failed in the long run.

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ThomWV

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Sun Feb-24-08 06:54 PM
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3. Nails and pilings are driven by repetitive beathing, doesn't work so well for other stuff

Generally when something doesn't work the first time its a good idea to look at how it failed, see what caused it to fail, and then to use the best information available to make changes necessary such that failure in the future will not arise from the same cause. Pragmatic, as you might call it; see what works and what doesn't and use the best.

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Jim__

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Sun Feb-24-08 07:10 PM
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4. In an ideal education system, a student wouldn't fail. - n/t

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Boojatta

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Sun Feb-24-08 07:19 PM
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5. Are you sure? Are you suggesting that an ideal education system

would refuse to grant admission to a student at risk of failing?

The question is about an ideal education system, not an ideal universe.

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LWolf

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Mon Feb-25-08 10:41 PM
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6. It depends.

In an ideal system, the response to failure would be dictated by the cause.

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Carmenzabono

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Thu Feb-28-08 10:21 PM
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7. candidates have not been talking about education

Which is sad.

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madeline_con

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Wed Mar-05-08 09:00 PM
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12. Only Bill Richardson ever mentioned it.

He kept saying we need to put the arts back into schools. I agree.

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screwballz

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Mon Mar-03-08 12:50 AM
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8. a tutor should monitor the student

closely.

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Scooter24

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Mon Mar-03-08 01:00 AM
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9. I've always wondered about those cases

in which a student just doesn't want to learn. I've heard stories about students who would just answer C all the way through the states mandatory test just so they can goof off the rest of the class. In the current age of mandatory testing linked to school funding, how do you deal with such a case?

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jody

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Mon Mar-03-08 03:19 PM
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10. �continue their formal education and study the same subject area that they failed�? �Insanity is

doing the same thing, over and over again, but expecting different results.� (Rita Mae Brown, Sudden Death, Bantam Books, New York, 1983, p. 68.)

Your poll question really intrigues me.

Why is it necessary for students to keep repeating courses they fail?

Perhaps you meant to repeat courses a limited number of times, e.g. repeat once or twice?

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madeline_con

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Wed Mar-05-08 08:58 PM
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11. There are a lot of factors to consider.

How old is this alleged kid?

Has the idea that it may be beyond his ability, in other words, he's reached his peak, occurred to educators?

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