We have MANY straight allies on this board. THANK YOU ALL.

I just wanted those straight friends to realize we know they are here.

And for many of us, our anger doesn't mean we aren't thrilled to death with Barack's Presidency.

WE ARE.


We are just upset with his decision right now.

It doesn't mean we'd change our vote. We wouldn't.

It just means we want to make sure this won't be a pattern in his Presidency.


And we truly thank you for your support (empathy is the greatest virtue in my opinion).

Straight white man with straight white wife, both happy to stick up for our gay, lesbian, and TG friends. No thanks needed whatsoever.

and when a majority feels empowered to oppress any minority we're all at risk.

Your straight allies on this board understand that.

My only grumble is that with the plethora of posts by GLBT posters, Warren's vicious war against women has gone largely unnoticed.

That's a quibble, though. He's an inappropriate choice for a job that shouldn't be there and everyone of good conscience should be offended by it.

But not too many people seem to be worried about that unfortunately.

No thanks needed. I'm just a constitutional liberties for all citizens kinda guy.

Hang in there. Together, maybe we can keep Obama from straying too far off the course we has set for him. :hi:

:grouphug:

:D

these rights even have to be fought for and up here there's nothing I can do to help anyway .... but I do read and understand the anger. Hang in there ...... it will happen. :grouphug:

and just my opinion I wish they would leave you guys and gals alone and let you live your lives.

:grouphug:

to civil rights and equality under the law. It's pathetic that it's even an issue. And by your moniker you sound like a Green Day fan. Me too. :hi:

you deserve our full support. period, end of story.

and that means no one should be left out.

:grouphug:

:bounce:

I don't start too many threads, but I hope I've provided support in other folks' threads. I don't know what people don't "get" about having your human rights denied.

Your voices have taught me much. I am a better person because of this forum.


Here is my post from almost a year ago:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=221&topic_id=63564

didn't it used to be a bit dead in here until lately? I am gay and I rarely used to come into this forum until the last 6 months or so and I am not sure why. :hi:

Yikes! I heard it was contagious!

You know of what I speak: tolerance, open-minded-ness, respect, and other rare attributes that our society has lost over the last eight years.

For myself, I am a dirty minded, hetero, middle-aged male with a really bad sense of humor, and a worse femur, although the tibia seems to be doing quite well, thank you very much. What is really refreshing and pleasant is having a place, even on the GBLT threads, where you don't care, and don't have to care what the sex or sexual preference is of the other people. Even today, after the election of a man of color to the White House, it is still too rare and precious to find a place like that.

What would be nice is, other than one particular collection of oddities and odditrees, is if the rest of the world ended up looking more and more like DU.

and god knows I wish I were gay... but sadly, i am stuck with the opposite sex (from mars, while i am firmly grounded on venus).;) in any case, no thanks needed.

And as I said to PeolsiFan the other day - I KNOW that you all would be fighting for MY rights if they were in danger (and yours weren't).

This isn't about LGBT rights, it's about human rights. They are rights we all deserve.

but for 8 yrs, to counter the argument that they hate us for our freedoms, Bush's response has been to take the rest of our freedoms away.

It's been busy around the old homestead, what with ice storms, recalcitrant beagles, and family coming in from all over the country for the holidays, so I was just skimming DU. At first, I was shocked to see subject lines that looked like a debate on rights for gays had started up.

I feel like I did 11/5, when I learned Prop H8 had passed - we humans are one fucked up species. I am thoroughly ashamed of us. I've been telling my son and my brother (both gay) for years that I feel things are about to change, that homophobia is on the way out. And I believed it. Now I am so angry I just don't know how to work it out.

We haven't done enough (nothing like stating the obvious :p ) to clean our own Dem house, much less change minds, hearts, and laws on the other side.

I am so sorry. I know that's little or no comfort, but I promise you this: Call on me and I will be there. I will fight at your side. I'm not trying to sound noble or anything. I'm not. I'm just as venally reactionary as anyone. I want to reach through the intertubes and throttle the assholes who can so cavalierly toss off platitudes about sitting down and shutting up and not making a scene and not spoiling any parties. Fuck that and fuck them.

This was a huge wake-up call for me, and it would not have happened were it not for the discussion here.

It's really opened my heart in a way that is hard to explain. You taught me a lot of things I didn't know. You triggered me to remember people and situations I had put out of my mind, and caused me to recall the influence of GLBT people I dearly miss. I feel such affection for this community and intense loyalty to stand with you in this fight. It's been way too long. It's time to make things right.

ON EDIT:

I have to echo what someone upthread said so beautifully: You never have to thank me. I came here to apologize for my ignorance.

That was perfect. I wish I had written that. But that's what I feel too. I don't deserve your gratitude. For too long I failed you. I only plead for your foregiveness and assure you that going forward, I'll do better.

justice everywhere." It's not a difficult concept, or I wouldn't have thought it was. As many others have said, no thanks are necessary (even if they are very welcome).

Your friends understand where your anger is directed, and we see clearly that it's justified, and we're still with you.


Heck, we aren't your friends only on the easy days!

:grouphug:

Thanks for thinking of us.

I have edited my signature in support. I hope it helps a little.

Equality for all... not a hard concept but until it becomes reality, it is issue number #1 as it should be. Having the honor to know, and get to know many of you guys is thanks enough.

Peace

~LK~

:hug:

:toast:

Remember that old Chris Rock bit about Crappy Dads?

Guys say to me, like it was something SPECIAL, "I pay my bills. I take care of my kids."

I say, "So? You wanna cookie? That's what you're SUPPOSED to do!"

I've been spreading this George Washington quote around LGBT, since I have probably spent more time here in the last week than I have in the previous seven years combined, "As Mankind becomes more liberal, they will be more apt to allow that all those who conduct themselves as worthy members of the community are equally entitled to the protections of civil government. I hope ever to see America among the foremost nations of justice and liberality."
--George Washington

George Washington, if he lived today, would likely also be a Straight Dude Standing With LGBT. This comment comes as close to "proving it" as an assertion like this can be "proved".

There are often challenging times at DU (and in our personal lives); the empathy and goodwill of straight friends and allies is deeply appreciated. :hi:

:hug:

:hi:

I haven't been around much in the last 6 weeks or so -- (dealing with a few profound changes in my life) -- and I appreciate the hug and hello more than you know.

Sending you a big hug and best wishes. :hi: :hug:

I hope that you are well. :hug:

OT, but it's b/c of you that I learned about Duncan Grant and John Maynard Keynes. Wonderful trivia for a GLBT activist and Econ geek like me. :D

:loveya:

and I mean the very least. I try to do more than just a response or two on a message board.

:grouphug:

I dream of the day when my gay and lesbian friends can marry, raise a family and have the same opportunities for happiness that I have had. This is the world I want to live in.

Keep fighting the good fight, my friends!

You deserve mega good things.

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Really, it's sad that it isn't expected.

tireless defender here :hi:

:hi:

And I just read that Melissa Etheridge has decided to hold some of her ire around Warren. It's on Huffington post. It is so like Melissa to be forgiving that way. She is just an amazing woman and yes, I've always been a besotted fan.

And I can't see how you wouldn't have the right to be at least as pissed off as I am.

Of course, I can't see how you guys don't have a lot of rights I have.

And that's kinda the whole point, innit?

to know that I am 100% in solidarity with you all. :hug:

Now, if only you would recognize that the "set" of "your allies" consists of everyone who supports the goal of marriage equality -- and is not limited to everyone who supports each and every opinion you voice over each strategic calculation of the incoming Obama administration.

Nor is that set of allies limited only to those willing to support each and every "outrage eruption" against each strategic calculation of the incoming Obama administration.

Nor is that set of allies limited only to those who are sufficiently outraged by the lack of sufficient outrage by others over each strategic calculation of the incoming Obama administration.

It should be obvious that the "set" in the first paragraph is larger than the sets in the next two paragraphs, and limiting your allies to the sets in the last two paragraphs actually reduces the support for your ultimate goal.

Thanks to all of my GLBTQ friends for allowing me the honor of marching at their side.

In Solidarity and Friendship,