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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 05:15 PM
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538.com: "On Transition Website, Obama Promises More to Gay Community"
I haven't read this article fully yet or checked the links, but thought I'd share:

"This is interesting -- and I'm not entirely certain what it means.

Obama's transition website, Change.gov, includes a section called 'Agenda' that outlines the administration's objectives in any of a couple dozen policy areas. For the most part, the 'Agenda' section is a near carbon-copy of the 'Issues' section on Obama's campaign website, BarackObama.com.

In the area of 'Civil Rights', however, there is a significant difference between the campaign website and Change.gov, the transition website. Specifically, the transition website makes a much broader range of commitments to the gay and lesbian community."

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/12/on-transition-website-obama-promises.html

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FARAFIELD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 05:20 PM
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1. THIS IS GREAT FOR JOHN MCCAIN!!!!!
(those that read 538 will get that)
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Idealism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 05:22 PM
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2. Here is some from change.gov Agenda page Nate was talking about
Edited on Sat Dec-27-08 05:22 PM by halo experiment
Support for the LGBT Community

"While we have come a long way since the Stonewall riots in 1969, we still have a lot of work to do. Too often, the issue of LGBT rights is exploited by those seeking to divide us. But at its core, this issue is about who we are as Americans. It's about whether this nation is going to live up to its founding promise of equality by treating all its citizens with dignity and respect."

-- Barack Obama, June 1, 2007

Expand Hate Crimes Statutes: In 2004, crimes against LGBT Americans constituted the third-highest category of hate crime reported and made up more than 15 percent of such crimes. Barack Obama cosponsored legislation that would expand federal jurisdiction to include violent hate crimes perpetrated because of race, color, religion, national origin, sexual orientation, gender identity, or physical disability. As a state senator, Obama passed tough legislation that made hate crimes and conspiracy to commit them against the law.

Fight Workplace Discrimination: Barack Obama supports the Employment Non-Discrimination Act, and believes that our anti-discrimination employment laws should be expanded to include sexual orientation and gender identity. While an increasing number of employers have extended benefits to their employees' domestic partners, discrimination based on sexual orientation in the workplace occurs with no federal legal remedy. Obama also sponsored legislation in the Illinois State Senate that would ban employment discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation.
Oppose a Constitutional Ban on Same-Sex Marriage: Barack Obama voted against the Federal Marriage Amendment in 2006 which would have defined marriage as between a man and a woman and prevented judicial extension of marriage-like rights to same-sex or other unmarried couples.

Support Full Civil Unions and Federal Rights for LGBT Couples: Barack Obama supports full civil unions that give same-sex couples legal rights and privileges equal to those of married couples. Obama also believes we need to repeal the Defense of Marriage Act and enact legislation that would ensure that the 1,100+ federal legal rights and benefits currently provided on the basis of marital status are extended to same-sex couples in civil unions and other legally-recognized unions. These rights and benefits include the right to assist a loved one in times of emergency, the right to equal health insurance and other employment benefits, and property rights.

Repeal Don't Ask-Don't Tell: Barack Obama agrees with former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff John Shalikashvili and other military experts that we need to repeal the "don't ask, don't tell" policy. The key test for military service should be patriotism, a sense of duty, and a willingness to serve. Discrimination should be prohibited. The U.S. government has spent millions of dollars replacing troops kicked out of the military because of their sexual orientation. Additionally, more than 300 language experts have been fired under this policy, including more than 50 who are fluent in Arabic. Obama will work with military leaders to repeal the current policy and ensure it helps accomplish our national defense goals.

Expand Adoption Rights: Barack Obama believes that we must ensure adoption rights for all couples and individuals, regardless of their sexual orientation. He thinks that a child will benefit from a healthy and loving home, whether the parents are gay or not.
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Sub Atomic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 05:23 PM
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3. This was posted elsewhere and isn't correct.
On barackobama.com the information is listed under 'people'.

http://pride.barackobama.com/
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sundog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 05:25 PM
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4. meh
Edited on Sat Dec-27-08 06:24 PM by sundog
we'll see

i think a lot of us are cynical about nice-sounding words because we rarely see actions that support them

whether the obama administration actually follows through on these things remains to be seen

in the meantime, we'll make noise till they do

we have to unabashedly fight for progress -now- while a democratic leader in in office
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 05:52 PM
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5. Politicians promise a lot of things.
So far his actions aren't real promising.
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bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 06:13 PM
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6. Thanks NYC_SKP. I'm giving PE Obama the benefit of the doubt.
Old saying: Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.

It does look like the pressure might be working, according to Silver.

Silver acknowledges the error and says, they are now front and center

>>UPDATE: Several readers write in to point out that BarackObama.com does contain some of the aforementioned text on gay rights, but it's buried about four clicks deep under the 'People' tab rather than under the 'Issues' tab. The point is, these are not exactly things that Obama was putting front and center.<<

He still concludes:

>>One consequence of the Rick Warren controversy is that Obama may now be under a greater amount of pressure from Democrats to repeal Don't Ask, Don't Tell, to pass ENDA, and to expand hate crimes statutes, and to do all of the above relatively quickly. As we have pointed out before, large majorities of the public are in line with the Obama position on all three issues. If Obama is not willing to expend the relatively modest amount of political capital required on those, then one can reasonably anticipate that he won't be willing to touch more controversial subject areas like adoption or civil unions.<<



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