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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 10:26 AM
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Donations urgently needed at blood center
Edited on Mon Dec-29-08 10:27 AM by TechBear_Seattle
Donations urgently needed at blood center

The Puget Sound Blood Center is facing a shortage of about 1,000 pints of blood, a need that developed the past 12 days because snow and ice prevented hundreds of Western Washington residents from donating.

In response to the 20 percent drop in supply, the center started special donation hours beginning Sunday and lasting through this week with the hope people will be able to safely leave their homes to give blood, spokesman Michael Young said.

"If we don't replenish what we're sending to hospitals, we will continue to see an inventory that is depleted," he said. "There could come a time when we might not have the blood for a hospital that needs it."

In particular, the center has a two-day "critical" supply of O- and O+ blood, as well as a one-day "emergency supply" of B- blood, Young said.


The article continues at http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/393923_blood29.html

Why is this relevant to the GLBT Forum?, I hear you asking. Federal regulations prohibit accepting donations from any man who has ever had sex with another man. In other words, no matter how bad the blood shortage, men who have sex with men -- gay, bisexual and even straight guys to experimented at some point in their lives -- are considered tainted, unhealthy and unsuited for something so important. Despite me being one of the rarer blood types (A-), I am forever banned from being a donor. Sure, I could lie, but I'm not going back into the closet, not even for something so important.

Added: A bit more about the regulations

http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/23/fda-blood/
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dmallind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 11:19 AM
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1. This would be much easier to fill
If they did not automatically eliminate even perfectly safe (let alone other low risks) groups such as anybody who has spent more than a couple weeks in Europe in the last two decades.

I have a whole slew of A- ready to go the minute they stop the paranoia about JCD for a start.
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GodlessBiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 01:20 PM
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2. I'm A neg, too. I love going in to blood drives and telling them my blood type, and then telling...
them I'm gay.

Oh, the look on their faces. Pure disappointment.
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 01:22 PM
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3. Sadly, it's not up to the people running the drives. It's the FDA.
:(
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GodlessBiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 01:30 PM
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4. Very true. They are just implementing the policy.
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 01:34 PM
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5. And they'd be breaking federal law if they ignored it.
Many/most of them do not agree with the policy either.

In addition,I really hope that this antiquated, bigoted policy doesn't stop eligible donors from participating.
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MNBrewer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 10:43 PM
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18. It's not by law, is it? It's simply a policy.
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 09:11 AM
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21. However, it is a policy with sharp teeth and a very strong jaw
Edited on Tue Dec-30-08 09:12 AM by TechBear_Seattle
As I recall, any blood bank caught not screening out gay men and other "undesireables" will be blacklisted. Not only will they stop receiving subsidies from local, state and federal government agencies (you didn't think the juice and cookies fell from Heaven, did you?), they will likely be required to pay back subsidies they have already received, as far back as the Red Cross determines that they have been improperly screening donors. Further, the blood they collect will be ineligible to become part of the nation's blood supply. Circumventing this blacklist is a serious federal offense, under the theory that it amounts to biological terrorism. As a last resort, the Red Cross can yank an agency's license to collect and store blood, effectively putting them out of business; even private blood banks, which collect for research purposes only and not for public health, require a license to operate.

This bigotry is federal law for all intents and purposes. Worse, it is not something that can be changed by act of Congress; it can only be changed by a decision of the private non-profit agency charged with establishing and enforcing the rules regarding blood collection for public health.


Edited for spelling and grammar. Why is it that mistakes never appear until after you post?
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 09:31 AM
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22. one correction
The FDA also has this reg and refuses to remove it. Supposedly the Red Cross wants the reg changed but under Bush the FDA won't budge.
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 09:53 AM
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23. Is Liz Dole still head of the US Red Cross?
The last time I researched this, she was in charge of policy and was very adamant against changing the rule.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 12:07 PM
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25. No she was my Senator, technically still is, but lost her seat in Nov.
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Book Lover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 01:56 PM
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8. Keep doing it, though
The more gay men protest this unfair and discriminatory practice, the sooner it will change.

Am I foolish for hoping that's true?
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 02:02 PM
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10. The protest needs to happen at the federal level, not at the blood drives.
The people who run the drives can't change a thing and typically do not agree. In addition, their time should not be wasted collecting info on ineligible donors and appointments should not be booked by someone who is ineligible just to protest this issue.
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Book Lover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 02:13 PM
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11. OK
It was an idle thought. You're right about not wasting people's time.
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 10:41 PM
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17. Is A- desireable?
that's what I have
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 11:19 PM
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19. Definitely yes
Edited on Mon Dec-29-08 11:23 PM by TechBear_Seattle
The number of people in the US with A- blood is fairly small; we make up about 6.3% of the US population. Such blood can be given to people with A-, A+, AB- and AB+, or about 47% of Americans so yes, it is in demand. The downside is that we can only receive A- or O- blood, which is carried by only about 13% of Americans. Type O-, which can be given to anyone, is found in about 6.6% of Americans. (I pulled these figures from an old chart I have, but I'm sure you can find this info on the web somewhere.)

If you are interested in blood types in general, this is what I remember about them:

There are a number of genes which code how to form red blood cells. A mutation in one gene causes the body to build red blood cells with a type of structure on its coat; a mutation in a different gene causes the body to build red blood cells with a different type of structure on its coat. These give rise to the A and B types. If you inherit one mutant gene from a parent and one "standard" gene, the mutant is dominant: you will have either type A or type B blood. If you inherit one of each, your red blood cells will have both structures and you will have type AB blood. If you inherit two standard genes, your red cells will not have either structure, and your blood type will be O.

These mutations have persisted because they actually offer evolutionary advantage. Either A or B (I don't remember which) gives slight protection against cholera, typhoid and related diseases; the other gives slight protection against smallpox. People with two A mutations or two B mutations are better protected than someone with only one mutation; type AB people have lesser protection, but are protected against both sets of diseases. People with type O have no inherent protection, which is likely the reason why smallpox and typhoid so devistated the Native Americans: most of North America's indigenous people have type O blood and so were more suseptible to diseases that Europeans and Africans could tolerate.

The type A and type B structures on the blood cells act as antigens; that is to say, they can cause an allergic reaction in someone not acclimated to their presence. If a person with type A blood is given blood containing the type B structure, then that person will likely have a life-threatening reaction. Thus, a type A person can receive type A or type O blood, but not type B or type AB blood. A person with type AB can receive any kind of blood in a transfusion, which is why that type is called the "universal recipient," but their blood can only be given to other type AB people. A person with type O can only receive type O blood, but their blood can be transfused into anyone, which is why they are called the "universal donor."

The plus or minus references the Rh antigens, so called because they were first found in the rhesus monkeys used in researching blood transfusions. Specifically, the sign indicates the presence or absence of one antigen in particular, Rh-D. It has been a while since I've looked it up, but I believe that this is not a genetic matter, but one of exposure from one or both of your parents. There are ways to counteract the effect of incompatable Rh, but it is generally better not to have to.

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SacredCow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 01:37 PM
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6. I'm curious...
(and too lazy and/or busy to look it up).... What's the law in Europe/Asia/etc... on this?
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 01:45 PM
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7. Banned in China
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 01:58 PM
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9. It's not just gay men, they ban a lot of people on minor grounds
Edited on Mon Dec-29-08 02:00 PM by TheWraith
Including anyone who's ever had even a single indeterminate HIV test, people who've lived in the UK within the last 30 years or so, etcetera. The FDA is very paranoid about blood-borne diseases like hepatitis, HIV, and vCJD in the transfusion supply, and I suppose you can't blame them too much for that. Such wide deferral critera is harsh, even given the lack of 100% reliable testing, but I have yet to see anyone suggest an equally effective replacement policy.
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 03:01 PM
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12. I've had major surgery and required approx. 6 units of blood. I tried to donate
Edited on Mon Dec-29-08 03:02 PM by Raster
when I had recovered. Because I refused to lie, I was refused. When my friends were dying around me like front-line casualties, I tried again to donate. Again I refused to lie and again I was refused. I went to my doctor and asked to be tested for EVERYTHING: HIV, HEPA, HEPB, HEPC, all STDs, etc. I had my doctor issue a document stating my clean and untainted blood condition. I tried to donate. Again, I was refused. I am O+, the universal donor. I want to give blood. I believe in giving blood. I am not allowed.
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 03:12 PM
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13. It's federal law which restricts you, not the organization that's collecting the blood.
It's the FDA. They're the ones that need convincing.

Also O- is the universal donor. O+ can only go to those with + types.
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 03:21 PM
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14. Ah, thank you for the info. I may be O- then. My doctor told me I was a universal donor.
And yes, I know it's the FDA. I think they are overcompensating now for their shitty job during the 1980's of protecting the blood supply.
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 03:38 PM
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15. I agree and hope that the law changes very soon.
There are a lot of people that it's hurting.
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MNBrewer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 06:57 PM
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26. Can you cite the law, for informational purposes?
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 12:58 AM
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27. The actual federal law would be the empowerment act for the FDA
I was incorrect above, as dsc in post #22 pointed out. The rules are set by the US Food and Drug Administration. Like most federal bureaucracies, the FDA is empowered by an act of Congress to establish and enforce regulations. These regulations are not laws exactly, but can carry the force of law.

The FDA has a FAQ here which answers a number of questions about their blood donation policies.
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 10:36 PM
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16. So many gay people who would be more than happy to donate blood.
but cannot. That is truly tragic all the way around. I wonder what it would take to overturn a discriminatory practice by the FDA.
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 11:28 AM
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24. Hi there--like I said abit up-thread, I think the FDA is now overcompensating for the
absolutely horrendous job they did of protecting the blood supply in the 1980's. The official government position-as dictated by Ronnie the Raygun--was "see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil." The Raygun misadministration spent most of the their two terms in office in a state of denial about AIDS. Thousands, literally tens of thousands of people--straight, GLBT persons, hemophiliacs, etc. died because Raygun and his rinky-tink public health agencies stuck their collective heads in the sand and refused to examine the rapidly accruing data and take action. Of all the sins and crimes of the Raygun misadministration, this was the worst.
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Chovexani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 12:32 AM
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20. I'm O- myself
And, even were it not for my blood disorder, I could not give blood because I have had sex with bisexual men.

Pretty fucked up if you ask me.
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