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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 11:21 AM
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From 'Mama's Family' clips to 'gays must die!' hate -- Youtube offers window to this nut-crazy world
As we all sit here on the cusp of a new year of promised "change," do you wanna see a quick reminder of how far we still have to come in this world? Well here, check out this, an actual YouTube profile:

http://www.goodasyou.org/.a/6a00d8341c503453ef0105369afaf9970b-pi

Charming, right? And look, do you notice the kinds of publications that this "faggot sniper" uses to justify his unapologetic gay hate? Yea, that's right -- Sites like World Net Daily and the AFA's Agape Press (now rebranded as One News Now) put ammo in this potential gunman's barrel. Links that give further evidence to what we in the progressive community have always known: That there is an undeniable connection between the "nice" socially conservative "pro-family" version of queer antipathy, and the militant form that quite literally wants to "snipe" gays. There just is. It's sad, scary, and about the most un-Christian thing imaginable -- but it's also true.

Want more? Well you masochist for YouTube pain, here's another, even more insane profile that cites the exact same articles:

http://www.goodasyou.org/.a/6a00d8341c503453ef0105369afaea970b-pi

Blaming gays for AIDS? Presenting gays as outside the realm of normalcy? Gays are obsessed with sex? Connecting homosexuality with things like pedophilia? Saying gays are outside of God's plan? Just like the earlier one, this profile is obviously that of an extremist. But all of those concepts that we just mentioned are the EXACT SAME ONES that the religious right peddles on a daily basis. This YouTuber and his pro-death ilk (and there are several others you can find by linking around from this dude's friends page) have simply taken those oft-recited anti-gay memes and taken them to mean a literal queer elimination, rather than an elimination of desires through so-called "ex-gay" programs. And despite how much our "pro-family" opponents will bitch, moan, and spin: It is not at all unfair to connect these easily discernible dots!

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http://www.goodasyou.org/good_as_you/2008/12/from-mamas-family-clips-to-gays-must-die-hate-youtube-offers-window-to-this-nut-crazy-world.html
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Pab Sungenis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 01:16 PM
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1. K&R
:kick:
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SacredCow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 04:02 PM
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2. Another K&R....
YouTube really and truly is a cesspool of this kind of thing.
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 04:04 PM
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3. rec.
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laconicsax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 04:08 PM
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4. No problem, just reach out to these types and they'll be willing to change.
Do I need the :sarcasm: or is it obvious?
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Maven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 04:10 PM
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5. We just need to be more tolerant of these people and express our strong disagreement.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 04:13 PM
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6. We should give them their own show on Logo.
I'm sure it will show them how magnanimous we are and they'll change their mind about us.
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bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 07:42 PM
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8. Our nation has far more important issues: have you seen baby Trigg yet?
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racaulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 04:37 PM
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7. I'm sure reasonable people can agree to disagree on this issue.
Or so I've been told. :eyes:

This, to me, is EXACTLY why people like Warren are so dangerous. When our religious and political leaders explicitly state that our concerns are secondary and that we aren't deserving of the same rights as "normal" heterosexuals, then people like this believe that their hatred for us is justified and they lash out violently, with words and actions. And here we have a case where the PEOTUS is elevating such a religious leader to a position of prominence at his inauguration, essentially putting his stamp of approval on Warren's message. It scares me to think how much more emboldened Warren's followers will feel after hearing his very public message on January 20.

Hateful rhetoric begets hateful violence.

My objection to Warren giving the invocation at Obama's inauguration is not just about a "two minute prayer." It's sooooooo much more than that.

K&R
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bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 08:14 PM
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9. the right wing is falling apart - this is a good time to help keep them in power
:sarcasm: We just need to keep supporting right wing cultural wars, while they are already openly planning on opposing the new POTUS at every turn.
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 09:55 PM
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10. Yes, we must play right into their hands...AGAIN. n/t
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Karl_Bonner_1982 Donating Member (701 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 05:29 AM
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11. Plenty of relatively prominent right wing organizations make the "connections"
Anyone who thinks that ex-gay conversion actually works, that there is a connection btw homosexuality and pedophilia, that "God's law" (whatever the heavens it may be) needs to be enforced via the courts and the government, that states should have the right to criminalize personal behaviors and lifestyles that a majority of its citizens disagree with - anyone who agrees with any of the above points is an automatic extremist in my book. Unfortunately that applies to most of the "core" organizations of the religious right. While they may simply claim to be defending "traditional marriage and the family," what they are really opposed to is the very notion that homosexuality should be addressed in a value-free scientific manner, no more subject to moral scrutiny than the color of the sky or the weather.
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t0dd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 01:30 PM
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12. Has Obama invited these gentlemen to his inauguration?
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 09:54 PM
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13. Kicking again to show the kind of hate mongers we
Edited on Wed Dec-31-08 09:55 PM by Jamastiene
have to face in life. It's a damn shame this isn't stopped on YouTube. I may have to learn whatever language that is on Megavideo if Youtube doesn't put a stop to this hate mongering.
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