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bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-09 09:52 PM
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Rick Warren's (young brown-shirted) Army
Rick showing what he learned from history.


http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/rick-warrens-army

Rick Warren's Army
By Kyle | January 16, 2009 - 12:16pm
Bruce Wilson has uncovered audio of a speech Rick Warren delivered in 2005 to thirty thousand Saddleback Church members who had gathered in the Anaheim Angels sports stadium to celebrate the church's 25th anniversary, during which he implored his followers to dedicate themselves to Christ and create a movement akin to the Hitler Youth, the Bolshevik Revolutionaries, and the Chinese Red Guard:

Though Warren's speech was in the idiom of Christianity, he did not seek to inspire his Saddleback audience with examples of great religious leaders who have changed history through persuasion or other nonviolent approaches. Rick Warren looked to 20th century exemplars of vision and dedication but not to Mohatma Gandhi, Martin Luther King, or any other religious leaders.

With more than a hint of admiration in his voice, pastor Warren described how in 1939 in a packed Munich Stadium before the leader of the Third Reich, young brown-shirted men and women spelled out in formation, with their bodies, words in German which read "Hitler, we are yours."

"And they nearly took the world, " pastor Rick told the stadium crowd. He moved on to quote another inspirational example from the 20th Century, Lenin, who said 'give me 100 committed, totally committed men and I'll change the world.' Once again Warren observed, "They nearly did."

Having cited dedication and zeal of young Nazis and the efficacy of Bolshevik Revolutionaries, Warren moved on to describe how the sayings of Chairman Mao, printed up in the "Little Red Book", had helped propel the revolutionary fervor of the Chinese Red Guard who had carried out the violent, anarchic revolutionary spasm known as the Cultural Revolution.

With those examples fresh in his audiences mind, Rick Warren instructed the crowd of his thirty thousand to hold up pre-printed signs, within their programs, white letters against a red background, that said "Whatever it takes."

Looking out at the crowd Warren enthused, "I'm looking at a stadium full of people who are saying, 'whatever it takes, God'.

"In 1939, in a stadium much like this, in Munich Germany, they packed it out with young men and women in brown shirts, for a fanatical man standing behind a podium named Adolf Hitler, the personification of evil.

And in that stadium, those in brown shirts formed with their bodies a sign that said, in the whole stadium, "Hitler, we are yours."

And they nearly took the world.

Lenin once said, "give me 100 committed, totally committed men and I'll change the world." And, he nearly did.

A few years ago, they took the sayings of Chairman Mao, in China, put them in a little red book, and a group of young people committed them to memory and put it in their minds and they took that nation, the largest nation in the world by storm because they committed to memory the sayings of the Chairman Mao.

When I hear those kinds of stories, I think 'what would happen if American Christians, if world Christians, if just the Christians in this stadium, followers of Christ, would say 'Jesus, we are yours' ?

What kind of spiritual awakening would we have ? "


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LoveIsNow Donating Member (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-09 10:01 PM
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1. China is the third largest nation in the world
Just sayin'.
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bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-09 10:08 PM
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3. And?
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LoveIsNow Donating Member (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-09 12:25 AM
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7. I'm a nitpicker.
"A few years ago, they took the sayings of Chairman Mao, in China, put them in a little red book, and a group of young people committed them to memory and put it in their minds and they took that nation, the largest nation in the world by storm because they committed to memory the sayings of the Chairman Mao."
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bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-09 12:41 AM
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9. "In 1939, in a stadium much like this, in Munich Germany”


Thought you might enjoy picking this nit. :evilgrin:
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LoveIsNow Donating Member (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-09 02:42 PM
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12. Oh look at that
1934, and in Nuremberg, too if I recall my history.
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juno jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-09 10:08 PM
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2. Militaristic zombies who will follow him anywhere
Now we know Warren's masturbation fantasies.
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bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-09 10:16 PM
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4. At least we know who his big rallies are patterned after.
And the pics over his bed, pasted to the ceiling.
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Metta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-09 11:34 PM
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5. Uh, bad choice of parallels, dude. They make you look like a fascist.
There are others, you know.
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bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-09 11:48 PM
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6. Kinda scary that he should even utter such crap.
HitlerJungen:Hitler::SaddlebackJungen:Warren

But, he wants to rule the world. :eyes:
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HillbillyBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 06:27 PM
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16. If it looks like a duck, if it quacks like a duck, if it waddles like a duck.
or If he talks like a nazi, acts like a fascist.....
Identity Religions are based on the same tenets as fascism if only a tiny bit altered.
Dominionists every where are religious fanatics and play the fascist to the hilt.
They also do that "If you aren't with us you are against us" stuff too.
I have attended a dozen or so right wing nutcase churches and heart the kreestian soldier stuff, and it frightened me.
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bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-09 12:26 AM
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8. Mr. Warren ought to trot his fat pig @ss over to see what the GI's did
to his dream world. They conquered the scum.

Buchenwald.



From the train station, prisoners were marched through the SS headquarters area, then through the gatehouse into the camp section. This photo shows the gatehouse soon after liberation in April 1945. (U.S. Army photo)
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The Brethren Donating Member (853 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 11:34 PM
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19. I see very little difference between
extremists in organized religions, such as the evangelists, and that of the likes of Nazis and cult members.

And as was recently mentioned in a review of evangelism - I believe it was the History Channel, one of their core attitudes is that you are either with them (as believers) or you're against them. In particular, if you speak against their God, then you must, of course, be a supporter or spirit of the Devil.

Then to this when you add the often religious motivation to "spread the word of God" things become even more complicated. And to me, politically at least, things thus become much more disturbing.
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Chovexani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-09 06:18 AM
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10. "Whatever it takes, God"
Words like that have launched countless pograms, Crusades, and genocides.

It's a good thing Ricky is only singing one song.
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bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-09 11:00 AM
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11. The fat budgie only knows one song: somewhere over the hatebow
Here's Rick's idea of a rainbow:



:freak: Oh, white, on white on white doesn't show up does it?
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Crowman1979 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-09 10:36 AM
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13. oooohhhh, I'm so afraid of Rick Warren's lardass army!
Edited on Mon Jan-19-09 10:37 AM by Crowman1979
:sarcasm: Too bad only 10% will show up to his revolution since the another 90% are: A)watching football, B)can't put the playstation down for 10 seconds, C)can't afford gas for their gargantuan SUV or D)are in a Ted Haggard-like situation at the moment, if you catch my drift. ;)
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bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-09 11:19 AM
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14. ...
:rofl:
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-09 11:29 AM
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15. wow, imagine if a jewish president was getting inaugurated
Wouldn't that be rich.

Obama fucked up. Warren is a sick ticket, and there is no excuse for Obama supporting the fucker.

Street cred dipping into negative terrority for Obama being stubborn and insensitive on this particular issue.

I don't give a flying flipping shit who's "day" this is.


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bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 06:47 PM
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17. Fortunately that boil on
the @ss of history is here and gone and gave his little forgettable speech, which *sob* I missed. :cry:

The idea will hopefully be from now on, that brains and vision and not nihilistic dead end ideology will be the sine qua non for the highest office.

Oh, and the jet fumes from that big bird flying back to Texas just about now is worth every carbon footprint as he exits the world stage in disgrace.

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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 06:49 PM
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18. Well stated.
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