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t0dd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 01:29 PM
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Vermont Gov. Douglas announces he will veto same-sex marriage bill
Edited on Wed Mar-25-09 01:52 PM by t0dd
(03-25) 11:39 PDT Montpelier, Vt. (AP) --

Vermont Gov. Jim Douglas says he will veto a bill to legalize gay marriage if it passes the Legislature.

The Republican had said even before Wednesday's announcement that he was against same-sex marriage.

He also has said lawmakers shouldn't have spent their time on the bill this session because of the economy and the state's budget deficit.

A bill passed the Senate this week that would replace the state's first-in-the-nation civil unions law with one that allows gay and lesbian couples to marry. The House is now considering similar legislation.
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 01:32 PM
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1. Here's a link:
http://www.wcax.com/Global/story.asp?S=10069165&nav=menu183_15
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t0dd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 01:34 PM
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2. Its OK though...
We can get support from 2/3rds of the Vermont House of Represenatives and that will override his veto.
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 01:35 PM
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3. From what I've heard, they've had trouble in the past
getting enough votes to override. I'll try to remain optimistic.
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t0dd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 01:36 PM
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4. Well, now is the time for everyone to take action..
even people that don't reside in Vermont. We need to contact representatives there. We need to do everything we can. All we need is 101 out of 150 and the democrats have a huge majority.
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Maven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 01:37 PM
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5. MOTHERFUCKER
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 03:18 PM
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12. You're alive!
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Maven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 03:36 PM
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13. Yes, I came out of my slumber briefly to spew expletives.
And I'll be "checking in" shortly. ;)
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GodlessBiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 03:47 PM
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14. A noble task in a case like this.
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 01:42 PM
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6. I fucking hate the right wing.
There, I said it.

Are there email addresses for Vermont reps that might be waffling? I have time to write a few emails today and I know nothing about the Vermont legislature.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 01:55 PM
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9. Here you go, from the Freedom to Marry Taskforce
http://www.vtfreetomarry.org/house.html

Hard to know exactly who's waffling. Just email all of them- including the repubs.
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 01:57 PM
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10. Thank you, cali!
I'll get on this.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 02:04 PM
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11. thank you!
I feel heartsick about this and so angry I can't describe it.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 01:48 PM
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7. Politicians are really great at rationalizing their own bigotry
I love this religion they follow, that is cool with torture and illegal war, but just can not bear the idea of equal rights for all people. The alter of discrimination, such a holy place to be.
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t0dd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 01:49 PM
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8. Well
I intend to spend this evening contacting as many Vermont representatives as I can. And I also want to personally start the "Anyone but Douglas 2010" campaign. There will be political consequences for his decision, as he knows a majority of Vermonters support same-sex marriage.
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Zuiderelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 04:15 PM
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15. What an ASSHOLE!
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t0dd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 05:18 PM
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16. .
Please Inform Governor Douglas that Civil Rights Legislation for his Gay Citizens is not a Waste of Time:

Governor Jim Douglas
109 State Street, Pavilion
Montpelier, VT 05609-0101

Follow-up with a telephone call to 802 828-3333. I want to emphasize that regular mail is far more persuasive than using the contact for on the Governor's website.
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Runcible Spoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 05:32 PM
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17. OHH WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT
:grr:

Words fail.

WE. NEED. ACTION. AT. THE. FEDERAL. LEVEL. NOW.
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imdjh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-26-09 09:08 AM
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22. Exactly
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insleeforprez Donating Member (321 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 05:53 PM
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18. The legislature needs to make him call his bluff.
The legislature needs to pass same sex marriage just to insure that this is not just a hypothetical thought, that the governor would actually take an active step to slam the door on civil rights and equality.
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bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 09:17 PM
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19. Not again. It seems so close.
Thank you for the links cali.
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 09:54 PM
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20. Same-sex marriage takes up too much of the legislators time.
>>>>He also has said lawmakers shouldn't have spent their time on the bill this session because of the economy and the state's budget deficit.>>>>>

So he's going to make sure it consumes MORE of their time by vetoing it and sending it back for further debate, speechifying, posturing horsetrading and dealmaking.

Glad to know he's real worried about the economy. No flags related to this issue to wrap himself in, so I guess feigned concern about the economy will have to do.
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imdjh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-26-09 09:07 AM
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21. The quote reads like he wants it to pass with the supermajority
It actually reads like he's announcing this as a tactic, expecting to pass either way but trying to get the Dems to work a bit harder so he doesn't have a choice. We here may or may not think that this man has name recognition (Governor Who?) or potential, but he probably thinks that and the rise of the idiot Palin has probably given all sorts of hope to local Republicans that they can become national figures if they get the pulse right. One thing which seems common to all political executives is that they would prefer to make no important decisions, because important decisions are used against you.
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friedgreentomatoes Donating Member (304 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-26-09 05:35 PM
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23. Just look at the smugness of this comment..
"He also has said lawmakers shouldn't have spent their time on the bill this session because of the economy and the state's budget deficit." and tell me I am somehow too violent to want to throw an egg at his face.

This should be an indication that we will only get an inch if we fight for a foot, and, therefore, should not even be willing to settle for anything but absolute equality.

:mad:
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-26-09 10:59 PM
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24. I hope they can override his veto
and make it clear that Vermont is moving forward without him. :)

What a total asshole he is for making that necessary. x(
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bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-26-09 11:26 PM
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25. Not unlike NH Democratic Governor who opposes marriage equality.
"(NH)Gov. John Lynch, a Democrat, is opposed to gay marriage, though he has not indicated whether he would veto the bill."

http://www.365gay.com/blog/nh-gay-marriage-fails-by-one-vote/
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