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foxfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 07:22 PM
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Know Your Lying Enemy: Rick Warren disavows support for Prop. 8
California mega-church pastor and author of The Purpose Driven Life Rick Warren says he apologized to his homosexual friends for making comments in support of California's Proposition 8, and now claims he "never once even gave an endorsement" of the marriage amendment.

Monday night on CNN's Larry King Live, Pastor Rick Warren apologized for his support of Prop. 8, California's voter-approved marriage protection amendment, saying he has "never been and never will be" an "anti-gay or anti-gay marriage activist."

"During the whole Proposition 8 thing, I never once went to a meeting, never once issued a statement, never -- never once even gave an endorsement in the two years Prop. 8 was going," Warren told the CNN audience on Monday. "The week before the -- the vote, somebody in my church said, 'Pastor Rick, what -- what do you think about this?' And I sent a note to my own members that said, I actually believe that marriage is -- really should be defined, that that definition should be -- say between a man and a woman."

However, just two weeks before the November 4 Prop. 8 vote, Pastor Warren issued a clear endorsement of the marriage amendment while speaking to church members. "We support Proposition 8 -- and if you believe what the Bible says about marriage, you need to support Proposition 8," he said.

If you can stomach it, more at: http://www.onenewsnow.com/Culture/Default.aspx?id=481280
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dbackjon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 07:27 PM
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1. What a lying sack of shit - of course, Obama still loves him
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 07:34 PM
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2. Anytime you hear Rick Warren on LGBT issues, the real phrase is
"Know Your Enema".

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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 07:42 PM
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3. ?
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 07:53 PM
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5. It was a reference to the substance of Warren't position on the issue.
(I don't know enough about him to know if the phrase could be applied to anything more than that.
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 07:44 PM
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4. BULLFUCKINGSHIT!!!!
It is still on his fucking website!!!!

http://www.saddlebackfamily.com/blogs/newsandviews/index.html?contentid=1502

Video. Endorsement.

I hate him.
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foxfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 07:54 PM
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6. Bearing false witness about having borne false witness in the first place.
Doesn't even his version of God frown on that?
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 08:00 PM
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7. His version of God is a giant banker.
His parishioners are ATMs. Warren worships Mammon. Sick bastard.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 08:31 PM
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9. October 23, 2008
It is a two minute long, detailed endorsement and sack of spin and lies. I am amazed at his audacity to claim he never endorsed it. What a pig. Just a vile money worshiper. His word is without merit.
He is a liar.
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 08:47 PM
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10. I just sent the link to Larry King Live.
http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form5.lkl.comment.html?12

Warren is a mendacious hatemonger. He needs to be brought down, publicly. If anyone else wants to send in the link, try using that contact. We'll see if King goes anywhere with it.
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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 09:34 PM
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11. Thanks, just sent the link with comment. n/t
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 10:34 PM
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13. Thank you.
I got a robo-email back saying they did read all the entries and use them for viewer response on the show...we can hope.

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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 10:40 AM
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16. If he does use this particular feedback, can you post back confirming that he did?
I don't have cable so I don't get King, but I would appreciate knowing that he informed his viewers of the truth. thanks. :hi:
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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-14-09 07:48 AM
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25. Same here. I see Tweety picked it up on Hardball yesterday. DU thread and video link here...
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-14-09 09:58 AM
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26. I saw that!
Thank you 54anickel. I'm so glad they picked back up on the story with the video. I was a bit dampened by Mike Allen of Politico rushing to defend Warren. I wonder what's up with that? DU-er Underpants posted a link to all of Allen's right wing astroturf on Politico for me in a thread last night, but this Warren apologist act is new. I'll be keeping an eye on him.
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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-14-09 10:19 AM
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27. I was caught off guard by Mike Allen as well. I just kept thinking, WTF? There's another
video from CNN posted too. Anderson Cooper picked it up with Mel White and Tony Perkins....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x296297

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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 10:22 AM
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14. What the fuck is it with asshole wingnuts and recording devices???
:rofl:

Do they not UNDERSTAND the whole concept?
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tbyg52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 06:18 PM
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19. No, fortunately for us, they don't. It's pretty amazing. nt
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 08:28 PM
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8. He's a liar
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bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 09:52 PM
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12. Is he crazy?
"And I sent a note to my own members that said, I actually believe that marriage is -- really should be defined, that that definition should be -- say between a man and a woman."

Cuckoo--cuckoo.
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tbyg52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 06:20 PM
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20. I vote for just stupid. nt
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 10:38 AM
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15. You lying sack of shit.
:mad:
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TEmperorHasNoClothes Donating Member (356 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 10:42 AM
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17. the new generation of Jerry Falwells
They pretend to be so much "kinder and gentler" in their bigotry and fucking morons buy right into it.
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tbyg52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 06:17 PM
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18. Liar, that's what he is. Smarmy, santimonious liar.
And we got yelled at for seeing through him right from the beginning.
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 06:34 PM
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21. Can we hope this is the beginning of the end of his 15 minutes? n/t
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friedgreentomatoes Donating Member (304 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 09:32 PM
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22. he apologized to his homosexual friends
He has homosexual friends?
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RetiredTrotskyite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 02:23 AM
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23. What the HELL is Up...
with these religious rights types who lie about whatever? It's pretty obvious that Rick Warren DID support Prop H8. I could see him apologising to his gay friends (assuming that he actually HAS any) or to gay people in general for having supported Prop H8. His support was/is disgraceful, but why he lied about it when there is proof of that support. The only conclusion that I come to is that those who belong to the Religious Wrong in general and Rick Warren in particular are simply pathological liars.
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 01:23 PM
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24. Obvious? He made a freaking video endorsing Prop H8. It's beyond obvious!
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