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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 02:30 PM
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SF Mayor Gavin Newsom Asked Court to Delay Prop 8 Ruling
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 02:35 PM
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1. We know what the ruling will be then.
The purpose was to avoid White Night riot anniversary. x(
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 02:36 PM
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3. and Harvey's birthday.
Friday the 22nd.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 02:38 PM
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5. I tend to take the pessimistic view, too....that there would be fear of riots.
I would like to be totally wrong, and have it be because they didn't want people getting excessively exuberant over a holiday weekend. I don't think that's it, though....
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 02:36 PM
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2. According to your link, it's because the date coincides with riots.
And the court has apparently agreed:

Forthcoming Opinion Filings

May 20 2009 -- No opinions were announced for filing on Thursday, May 21, 2009.
There is no pending notice of forthcoming opinion filings. When opinions are expected to file, notices are generally posted the day before. Opinions are normally filed Mondays and Thursdays at 10:00 a.m.
http://www.courtinfo.ca.gov/courts/supreme/
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 02:37 PM
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4. Yeah the White Night Riots.
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 02:43 PM
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7. This decision could probably go either way at this point.
I initially thought it would be to uphold Prop. 8, but in light of the Iowa decision and legislation in the Northeast, I now think the CA court could try using some of the reasoning from those discussions as a means of rejecting Prop. 8. So who knows.
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keepCAblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 02:56 PM
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9. No. The SFPD and SDPD were put on "alert" about tomorrow's ruling...
...before Gavin Newsom asked the court to delay said ruling. Why would police be put on alert and Gavin Newsom concerned about the anniversary of the White Night riot if the ruling was favorable to the gay community? No, they are expecting the ruling to anger Teh Gays and fear that our anger will result in rioting.
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cecilfirefox Donating Member (404 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 03:15 PM
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13. To be fair though I doubt the court would outright TELL anyone prior to the release what the ruling
was. I suspect it's more likely the police department asked the court to give them a heads up, irregardless.
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 02:47 PM
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8. I love the smell of upended cop cars
Edited on Wed May-20-09 02:48 PM by mitchtv
burning in front of the state blgd on a cool foggy evening
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 03:11 PM
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11. One of my best friends is a SF County Sheriff Deputy ...
I'll ask her if she knows any info on what's going on.
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GodlessBiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 03:51 PM
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14. Mmmmmm. Good times, good times.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 07:28 PM
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22. I'll bring the marshmallows and sticks....
...s'mores, anyone?

:evilgrin:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 03:06 PM
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10. That sounds bad.
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cecilfirefox Donating Member (404 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 03:11 PM
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12. Probably a good decision. :/ Though I have to agree, things look bad for us now. nt
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 03:54 PM
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15. ronny, I put this up in GD to try to get action info. If anyone has any
or learns of any, please post it there to get the word out, okay? :hi:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x5691217
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 04:29 PM
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16. This straight-agaist-H8 is ready to rally with the GLBTQ community ...
and start gathering signatures to repeal that monstrosity.
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FreeState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 05:46 PM
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17. This IS NOT TRUE - per Newsom he did not contact or talk with the court
http://twitter.com/GavinNewsom

"Lots of tweets about me and supreme court today, not correct – if I could influence court, would use it to support marriage equality."
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 06:05 PM
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18. Newsom needs to make a statement ahead of the decision.
And preferably one that is more about H8 than about his upcoming campaign. I got through to his com office once. Will try again as time permits to see if he plans to do something more than deny the initial report.
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FreeState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 06:15 PM
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19. Contact San Francisco's Day of Decision
Im sure he will be part of it if hes in town when its announced - he has been there every step of the way so far...

http://dayofdecision.wetpaint.com/page/San+Francisco
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 07:00 PM
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20. K&R
:kick:
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 07:16 PM
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21. whether gavin asked them or not -- this is the supreme's responsibility.
that and the intiative process in cali.

after hearing the case -- could any one genuinely be surpised if they upheld h8?

the intiative process is holding every one captive.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 07:39 PM
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24. Oh honey if only the REAL Supremes could rule on this ..
We would have NOTHING to worry about!



Shit if Flo was alive she'd personally kick all them Prop 8 supporters asses!!!
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 08:35 PM
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26. i'm RAISING the ROOF to my girls!!!
:woohoo: dear lord god but i love Teh Fabulous.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 08:42 PM
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27. Doncha just love 'em?
God I love the Supremes.

Meeting Mary was so fucking fantastic. AND singing with her!
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 09:27 PM
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28. i've been positively GREEN that you got to do that.
green is not a good colour on me.

but those silver lame gowns -- to die!
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 07:35 PM
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23. I never believed the White night connection
White night is not a huge thing. The original riot was in a moment of anger. White is dead -- as are a lot of people who rioted. Those of us who were full of piss and vinegar back then are a little beyond rioting age. The folks who are full of piss and vinegar didn't live through those times.

I don't think there would have been some confluence of White Night anger and PropH8 anger.

Actually, pushing the decision further out creates another problem. It puts the decision closer to SF Pride. So, at Pride, the wound will still be open, there will be upwards of a million gay folks in the city for the 40th anniversary of Stonewall, and the alcohol will be flowing freely for several days. That would concern me more. It wouldn't take much to get things going.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 07:41 PM
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25. Not a huge thing?
Oh honey please!
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 07:58 AM
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30. I just meant
it's not something that gets people in a rioting mood. I still think Pride, with more people and more alcohol is a much more volatile situation.
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 09:33 PM
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29. I'm still kicking
a lot smarter too
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 07:59 AM
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31. Thank you
a lot of us who are "still kicking" are a lot smarter. Smart people don't start riots,.
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 03:47 PM
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32. they plan events
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