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Duncan Grant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 09:39 PM
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Pat Robertson: Kids Become Gay Because of Sexual Abuse from Men
On today's The 700 Club, Pat Robertson was asked what to do if your son tells you he's gay:

Robertson "I am not at all persuaded that so-called homosexuals are homosexuals because of biological problems. There may be a very few, but there are so many that have been made homosexuals because of a coach or a guidance counselor or some other male figure who has abused them and they think there's something wrong with their sexuality. So you need to get deep into why he is what he is, instead of just saying, 'Well, he's a homosexual so how do I handle him, and how do I be Christian?' Well, I think you ought to tell him, 'Listen, son, you know, here's what the Bible says about this, and it's called an abomination before God, so I've got to tell you the truth because I love you'...I mean, if somebody's on their way to hell, they'll -- I mean, you've got to love them to rescue them."

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napoleon_in_rags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 09:43 PM
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1. Woah!
there are so many that have been made homosexuals because of a coach or a guidance counselor or some other male figure who has abused them and they think there's something wrong with their sexuality

So how do you respond Pat, if you believe your child has been molested? Do you asked them about it? Apparently not:

Well, I think you ought to tell him, 'Listen, son, you know, here's what the Bible says about this, and it's called an abomination before God, so I've got to tell you the truth because I love you'...I mean, if somebody's on their way to hell, they'll -- I mean, you've got to love them to rescue them."
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WillParkinson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 09:43 PM
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2. Lesbians, of course, are exempt...
Darn lesbians.
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 09:44 PM
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3. I tried to get some "sex" throughout my childhood
I was a virgin until 19. I still came out Gay.I just felt unattractive
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 09:45 PM
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4. Pat Robertson is an asshole. The End n/t
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Pholus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 10:00 PM
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8. Actually I owe the guy.
I think a lot of my critical thinking came at age 12 when Robertson was on one of his anti-D&D crusades. I tended to believe what authority figures told me but in this case the evidence was right in my hands and that evidence said he was lying through his teeth. He really got me to start examining what people told me.

So, he was useful (to me). Not that I like him a bit, but he was useful...
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 09:51 PM
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5. But when Daddy takes the little guy into the shower and wags his penis at him
it makes him into a REAL MAN, right?

What am I missing here? Maybe I'm just a stupid woman and need to go back to baking cookies.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 10:40 PM
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9. i just fell over in a dead faint.
and considering how many penisii have been wagged at me tryin to accomplish the same...
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 09:55 PM
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6. he is a silly old twit
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oldironside Donating Member (835 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 01:46 PM
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23. Shouldn't that...
... "i" be an "a"?

But seriously folks, what would the world be like if people like Robertson were right? The Bible contradicts itself so many times you would never do anything for fear of ending up in the eternal fiery furnace. You'd just spend your life praying and trying not to think.
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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 09:59 PM
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7. That man is a freak. However, I will tell you that after working
many years with women who were sexually abused as children by fathers or other close male relatives, that these women as grown ups often turned to women partners for security and unconditional love. Whether the abuse they suffered 'made them gay" or not, I do not know or care. I am just happy they found secure and unconditional love. Pat R. knows absolutely nothing about the complete total accepting love preached by J. Christ.
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OhioBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 10:50 PM
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10. often turned to women?
um..... really? often? I mean let's be honest. what is the percentage of women that have been sexually abused as children? Then let's compare that to the number of sexually abused women that are gay?

I only bring this up because I was a victim and I know many others - it is freakin unreal when you admit to what happened to you how many other women say - yeah... me too and here is my story. I only know 5 lesbians and I have no idea what their childhood was like - but the many women that I know that were abused or molested, were and are all straight.

I know this is anecdotal... and I'm really not trying to be confrontational.. but I really do see a huge flaw in your post.

I don't think it is a high number of lesbians that were abused... it is a high number of women overall that were abused. I've heard the statistic that it is 1 in 5.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 09:24 AM
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18. Very good point.
nt
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RufusH Donating Member (162 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 10:09 AM
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21. In my anecdotal experience, it's about the same ratio among straight women as among gay women...
ratio of who was abused and not abused, that is. It has no bearing on whether someone is gay. Otherwise, there would be a whole hell of a lot more lesbians than there are.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 11:58 PM
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11. No male figure EVER touched me in a sexual way
I'm still totally gay!
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bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 12:53 AM
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12. Here Pat you got your


asshole!
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Visine Donating Member (32 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 12:59 AM
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13. I want that.
:loveya:

By the gods...that is a pretty little thing.
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 01:26 AM
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14. Pat hasn't the faintest idea what he's talking about.
I know. Big surprise. But this is just plain nuts. "Oh, some of it--very little--might be biological, but otherwise it's just being molested that makes guys gay." And women, Pat? What about women? What makes WOMEN gay? By your reasoning? I'd love to hear that one.

Idiot.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 06:00 AM
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17. "And women, Pat? What about women? What makes WOMEN gay?"
listening to Pat Robertson ...
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galledgoblin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 03:48 PM
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25. male rapists, of course
we're obviously turned off by men because we've been abused by them and need a prince to show us the error in our judgment. :crazy:
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RetiredTrotskyite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 04:06 AM
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15. Pat Robinson is an uneducated bigot.
:eyes:
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 05:58 AM
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16. so, those penguins were abused sexually by men?
I bet it was that Republican candidate whose first girlfriend was a mule ...
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jeremyfive Donating Member (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 09:25 AM
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19. Stop Giving National Stage to an Sad Pathetic Out-of-Touch Wierdo
Do we really need to hear anymore from Pat Robertson?

Are his bizarre ramblings meaningful to anyone?

I thought we'd had enough from him when he called for the assassination of Hugo Chavez and then denied he said it. (Sorry, dear Pat, camera's don't lie--we know precisely what evil spewed out of you. The denial was the lie.)

And now more nonsense. Dear God.
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Duncan Grant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 01:30 PM
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22. If all Pat had to offer was a cinder-block church outside Laurens, SC -- I'd agree.
Because Pat has some power and influence among those with a 19th century mindset, I think it's important to focus as much light on him (and his followers) as possible.
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SacredCow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 10:07 AM
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20. Gaaaah!!! The stupid!!!! It burns!!!!!!
(but notice how he used "coach" and "guidance counselor" instead of "priest" or "republican politician."

I was never abused sexually- by a male OR a female. Very few of my gay friends were ever abused sexually.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 03:30 PM
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24. As much as I fantasized about my coach -
- nothing ever happened.

Sigh.
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galledgoblin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 03:52 PM
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26. he and James Dobson need to get together to get their message straight
"Meanwhile, the boy's father has to do his part. He needs to mirror and affirm his son's maleness. He can play rough-and-tumble games with his son, in ways that are decidedly different from the games he would play with a little girl. He can help his son learn to throw and catch a ball. He can teach him to pound a square wooden peg into a square hole in a pegboard. He can even take his son with him into the shower, where the boy cannot help but notice that Dad has a penis, just like his, only bigger."

http://www2.focusonthefamily.com/docstudy/newsletters/a000000264.cfm
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 04:42 PM
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27. Counting the days...
I hate that fucker. Can't wait until he meets up with his maker and his buddy, Falwell...and you know it cannot POSSIBLY be Heaven if those two are going to be there for eternity.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 07:29 PM
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28. What a whacko, Robertson is.
What a crock of shit.

The ugly truth is that gay kids are culturally molested by heterosexuals every single moment of their lives.
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