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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 02:01 PM
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What does "straight" mean?
Edited on Tue Aug-18-09 02:16 PM by Boojatta
1. Have you heard someone (in real life or in a movie) use it as an insult? For something analogous, consider the movie Antwone Fisher. The main character is accused of being a "f***ot" although he is trying to establish a romantic relationship with one particular woman. The person who makes the accusation seems to be actually complaining that the main character isn't promiscuous, and isn't interested in instantly establishing a sexual relationship with any arbitrary woman.

I imagine that a gay man might accuse another gay man of being "straight" when the actual situation is that the target of the accusation is gay, but simply not promiscuous. However, this is merely my imagination. I don't know of even one instance when the word "straight" was used in this manner.

2. Apparently in prison some men normally labeled as "straight" become sexual predators, pursuing other men. Well, maybe there's no contradiction there. The terms "straight", "gay/lesbian", and "bi" identify the relationship between the gender of the person and the preferred gender of the person's partner. However, this scheme of classification ignores at least two different groups of people:

a) People who prefer a partner of any gender rather than no partner. This includes all men who do or would become sexual predators in prison.

b) People who prefer no partner rather than a partner who isn't of the preferred gender. For example, for many men, unless there's a possibility of a conjugal visit, being in prison excludes having a partner.

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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 02:05 PM
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1. I haven't heard it used as a pejorative.
Personally, I don't use it at all. I just say I'm heterosexual on the rare, rare occasions the question arises.

Why do you ask? Have you heard it used in a negative way? You seem to indicate that you have not. So, why the hypothetical question, if that is the case?
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mikelgb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 02:09 PM
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2. "breeder" is the preferred pejorative
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AtheistCrusader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-24-09 06:08 PM
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9. Fun digression...
I'm 'straight' but cannot reproduce. So in a way, that would be doubly insulting to some people.

(I don't care though, shit happens)
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 02:09 PM
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3. it means no ice in my bourbon
I do object to #1.

Jailhouse sexual predators are often not as concerned with sex as they are with power and exerting it over others. Unlike catholic priests who prey and pray, they are in a controlled atmosphere, and for many of them, forced sex is simply a way of regaining some control over their environment.

In the general population, many people DO prefer a partner of any gender, over no partner. But humans are social creatures, and social involvements are not just a preference, they provide mental health. It does not follow that all such relationships are sexual in nature, although they can be.

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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 02:17 PM
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4. "I do object to #1"
Originally, there were two different number ones in the OP. I edited the OP to introduce "a)" and "b)" for unambiguous reference.
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sailor65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 02:39 PM
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5. I've heard it used with no reference to sexuality at all
I don't drink, I don't smoke, I don't talk profanely, etc, etc. One of the guys I play hockey with told me last year "Man, you're way too straight."

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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 02:53 PM
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6. In sexual terms, I use "strait"
there is too much implied "correctness" in the word 'straight'. My meaning is more to the point as in 'Straits of Gibralter" ie narrow. Straight also is "unhip"
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 05:36 PM
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7. That puts the group "Dire Straits" in a whole new light!
:D

:rofl:
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imdjh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 12:11 AM
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8. Normally I like things clearly defined, you are or you aren't.
And I will be the one who decides what you are. I"m actually pretty serious about that last statement, and while it's an affront to the theory or PC response, it's actually the case of many gay people who have simply come to the belief that one should only believe half of what he sees and none of what he hears. What people tell you they are, and what a scientist would classify them as are quite often two different things.

But there is a gray area on the horizon. My high school best friend is straight. That doesn't mean that he hasn't (or that we haven't), it means that his "turn on" and his emotional attraction is heterosexual. Except, when it comes to our relationship, emotionally that is. For years, we have fallen in and out of a couple-like relationship. Now many folks would say, "That's just close friendship." and I would agree to a point. But what I expect could easily happen in later life, is that when my old friend and I have aged out of sex as much as one does, that we would fall back into an almost role playing type of relationship wherein I ALLOW him to take the (for lack of a better context) "masculine" role and I become the wifelike role.

I actually see this a lot with elderly people. I see straight male couples, where one always drives, makes sure the other has his sweater (yes, in Florida because of the AC) , who go to all kinds of appointments together, and who have both outlived their wives or marriages. It's kind of cool actually.
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-24-09 07:25 PM
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10. I have used the word "heterosexual" as an insult.
For example: "That is some heterosexual shit right there." = "I don't don't like that (object/situation/event)."

I have called some of my straight male friends, "women fuckers" or "pussy lickers", as an insult while playing video games.

I am a heterosexual male.
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-26-09 02:53 PM
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11. dude. that's so straight.
:P
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