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WillParkinson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-28-09 08:00 AM
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Utah governor: No special rights for gay people
Utah governor: No special rights for gay people

(Salt Lake City) Utah Gov. Gary Herbert said Thursday that discriminating against gay people shouldn’t be illegal, although he would prefer it if everyone were treated with respect.

In his most definitive comments yet on gay rights, Herbert told reporters he doesn’t believe sexual orientation should be a protected class in the way that race, gender and religion are.

“We don’t have to have a rule for everybody to do the right thing. We ought to just do the right thing because it’s the right thing to do and we don’t have to have a law that punishes us if we don’t,” Herbert said in his first monthly KUED news conference.

In Utah, it is legal to fire someone for being gay or transgender. The gay rights advocacy group Equality Utah has been trying to change state law for several years but has always been rebuffed by the Republican-controlled Legislature.

http://www.365gay.com/news/utah-governor-no-special-rights-for-gay-people/

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Yes, we need to protect religion because it's obviously not a choice or anything...
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-28-09 08:02 AM
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1. Because, you know, people are born into religion but *choose* to be gay
Herbert told reporters he doesn’t believe sexual orientation should be a protected class in the way that race, gender and religion are.

:puke:
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-28-09 08:07 AM
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2. whats the most popular white racist jew hating gay basher religion in Utah? nt
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-28-09 08:19 AM
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3. How is it rationally possible to say that we must protect some, but not others?
This is about Rights. If Rights are real things, i.e. if they are what we say they are "that which is due to ANYONE by just claim, legal guarantees or moral principles", i.e. UNIVERSAL, how can ANY Right be denied and other Rights still be valid? If any one Right is denied, if we deny the element of Universality, and say "Some have this Right but others don't", then all other "Rights" are in question also.

If I don't have the Right to Love whomever I Love, how, then, do I have a right to whatever Religious belief I profess? How then am I protected against descrimination against my Sex or my Race?

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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-28-09 08:24 AM
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4. Same old Republican BULLSHIT: "(discrimination) is okay as long as you don't get caught."
Edited on Fri Aug-28-09 08:27 AM by patrice
Good = WHATEVER you can get away with.

TOTAL MORAL CORRUPTION!



:grr: :grr: :grr:
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-28-09 10:47 AM
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5. The arc of history is long, but it bends toward.....
.... stupid.


OK,it really does bend ultimately toward "justice" but it has to pass thru a lot of 'stupid' first.
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Tyo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-28-09 11:26 AM
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6. I don't need special rights
Equal rights would be just fine.
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 02:39 PM
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7. and the winner is . . .!
...

In fact, religion and race shouldn't be a protected class either. We should all just hold hands and sing kumbaya, motherfuckers.

At least, until I fire your mormon ass for being straight.

Oh yeah, I guess I could do that in Utah!
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-01-09 09:05 AM
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8. Is "Gary Herbert" a synonym for "hypocrite"?
?? :puke:
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LeftHander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 11:50 AM
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9. No rights....in other words.....nt
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 07:09 PM
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10. Herbert's a piece of cow shit. And agreed, OP, we need to protect religion, which is a CHOICE, &
somehow NOT protect GLBT people, which is not a choice.



Shame on these vile f((*ers! I believe in heaven & hell, and they're working their way to a beautiful suite in hell with this cruelty! They living nothing from the teachings of Jesus - they're contemptuous and hateful, and are a hate group, not a religious group.
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Piwi2009 Donating Member (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 07:02 PM
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11. The gaybashers will always say 'The gays have the same right to
marry someone of the opposite sex, just like me!"

Same sex marriage won't be a special right. The heteros, too, will join in on the fun. They TOO will have a whole new right they didn't have before--the right to marry their own gender. They need to pull in that bottom lip, no one will make them do it if they don't want to.
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