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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 04:35 AM
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I want full, total equality, and I am NOT getting married
I don't see the point in it (sans children), and everyone I know who is married is now separated or divorcing. Gay or straight.
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Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 05:20 AM
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1. I'm for full equality, but that's something I've been thinking about
It seems a little strange that gay people want to get married, while it seems like all the straight, married people I know are running away from marriage. Or never getting married in the first place. Maybe we'd have more luck if we campaigned for the right to gay divorce instead. :)
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WillParkinson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 05:24 AM
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2. I married Paul...
Because some on my mom's side of the family are money-grubbing bastards and I could totally see them trying to get my stuff after I die and claiming Paul and I were just friends (even though we've been together, sharing a household and raising our 'kids' together for 24 years). After all the horror stories of gay couples who lose everything because of their family I felt it important to ensure that he was protected as much as the law will allow.
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Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 05:26 AM
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3. I completely empathize with you
Don't misunderstand me. I'm totally on your side on this.

Best wishes to you and Paul.
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WillParkinson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 07:42 AM
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8. Oh, no, I wasn't questioning your comment...
Just giving my particular reason for wanting marriage. :)
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 06:56 AM
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4. Just for the record, I am FOR your right to get married!
It's not for me, though. However, if I had a douchebag family, perhaps I might feel differently.
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 01:48 PM
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15. I know exactly what you're saying Will
everyone has a horror story. All it takes is one greedy, distant relative to fuck up one's life. We married to protect each other.
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 07:17 AM
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5. Everybody thinks that. Then they turn 35.
nt
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cate94 Donating Member (573 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 07:33 AM
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7. lol
true
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ergot Donating Member (253 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 10:55 AM
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9. Maybe not...my partner and I have our 30th "anniversary" next week
we never really had any serious interest in marriage (we have our affairs in pretty much ironclad wills, contracts, etc.) but we very much hope that we will get the RIGHT to it while we're still warm. :-)

(We are both well past 35) :D

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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 11:01 AM
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10. Well, you might want to think in terms of social security survivor benefits.
Unless you are in good financial shape anyway. :)
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ergot Donating Member (253 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 01:33 PM
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13. Yes, of course...we are more than financially secure but we know that's important to many
who aren't so fortunate - which is one of the reasons we support marriage equality even if we don't think it's something we actually "need" if you see what I mean. :-)
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 01:46 PM
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14. That's what I think about a lot. That is very important in this
household of almost 39 years.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 12:00 PM
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11. exactly. nt
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cate94 Donating Member (573 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 07:32 AM
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6. I want full and total equality,
Although I just got CU'd, I want full marriage rights. I am thrilled to have some protections, but I want the same choices and options as are available to straight people . That is what equality is really about, isn't it?

There are many reasons, other than children, to want the full rights of marriage. Inheritance, healthcare, insurance, taxes, property rights, etc. I realize that you are not saying that other people shouldn't have the right to marry, but I thought you might want to know some of the reasons other people want those rights.
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Chovexani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 12:15 PM
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12. I don't know how I feel about it myself
I could easily see myself marrying my current lady--I'm very much the nesting type--but being polyamorous gives me a somewhat unusual view of the institution. The sad thing is, sometimes I feel like I'm fighting for marriage equality, but for other people. A lot of the mainstream language/ideas about marriage, even among queer people, is kind of alienating to me tbh.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 05:26 PM
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16. The point is that you should have the option to do so if you want to...nt
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beyurslf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 08:54 PM
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17. I know what you mean. I am single but I want the right to get married--and I don't think
I will ever actually do it. Even if I found the perfect mate, I just don't see marriage as my kind of thing. That whole, no matter what I will always love you and stay with you stuff..... I mean, I can right off the top of my head think of several things that would make me leave LOL. :)But, just saying, I still want the option of saying marriage is not for me.
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Creideiki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 09:23 PM
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18. Without marriage, I can't protect my partner
I have a job with good benefits. He doesn't. I work for the government. Without marriage, I will be unable to protect him while he continues to freelance and look for a permanent position, or we decide that he'll just stay home and take care of the house, dogs, and (eventual) kids.

I can't protect him right now by fluke of gender. It's utter horsecrap.
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 09:33 PM
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19. gay people should have the same access to divorce court as straight people.
conservatives are opposed to gay marriage because marriage is a socialist institution and they don't want it to spread.

try THAT ONE on you conservative friends!
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