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millych3 Donating Member (26 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 11:05 PM
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The New Kind of Marriage Divide in Australian Youth?
Today I saw something on TaraElla post I would like to share
"In fact, amongst those Australians I have met, the divide is more between those who support marriage equality and those who do not even know their country does not have marriage equality. I have yet to meet anybody who has been openly against marriage equality in recent years."

Source: TaraElla Post: 70% of Australians Now Support Marriage Equality
URL: http://taraellapost.blogspot.com/2011/08/70-of-australia-now-support-marriage.html

Obviously the 70% is an important milestone, but I think her personal observation above is interesting news. Even in the US most young people support marriage equality, so that's not surprising.

What do you think?
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-11 01:06 AM
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1. Civil marriages are supposedly legal here in DC.
However, I have always believed that "marriage" is religious institution. Civil contracts are what we need to fight for.

The BF (recovering Catholic) is even more rabid on the concept, and convinced me - no church should have to marry any couple they don't approve of - marriage is an institution of the church, the civil union is the legal bit, and we have no right to force any church to change their policies - just as they have not right to inflict their policies unto us.

I just want the rights, I don't want to call it "holy".

Kit
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Amimnoch Donating Member (377 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-11 08:03 AM
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2. When church held services no longer provide official government granted benefits,
Edited on Fri Aug-12-11 08:05 AM by Amimnoch
Then I will agree.

As long as a ceremony held in a church gives tax benefits, property, and shared wealth legal benefits, medical/end of life decision making benefits, inheritance benefits, then the churches CAN NOT DESCRIMINATE!

Either it is a religious institution, which means it should have NO LEGAL POWER,

or it is a civil institution which means they CAN NOT DESCRIMINATE.

I actually do support religions being able to discriminate within their own ranks, I find it disgusting, but if they want to limit their own membership.... more power to them. But when they have the power to perform a ceremony that affords so much legal power to the people that they are performing the cerimony for, they no longer have that right of self exclusion in my book.

Either it is Civil, and churches should have no power or right to decide, or it is religious, and the rights and benefits of those services should no longer be granted any kind of government recognition.
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FreeState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-11 07:28 PM
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3. Civil Marriage is not being forced on any religion
It's already against the federal constitution to force a church to marry anyone. BS argument.
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