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kansasblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-05 08:56 PM
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Why do Christians beat up on Gays? How about divorcees?
Jesus said, plain and clear:

"It hath been said, Whosoever shall put away his wife, let him give her a writing of divorcement: But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery."

"The Pharisees also came unto him, tempting him, and saying unto him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife for every cause? And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh? Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder. They say unto him, Why did Moses then command to give a writing of divorcement, and to put her away? He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so. And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery."

And to bible is a little vague on homosexuality.
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nankerphelge Donating Member (995 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-05 08:58 PM
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1. Becuase they aren't happy...
unless they're persecuting people. And don't worry, the new pope isn't a fan of divorcees or gays, so some of them are covering it.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-05 09:03 PM
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2. Not ALL Christians but SOME Christians. Is it wrong to say ALL Gays hate
Edited on Sun Nov-06-05 09:31 PM by jody
ALL Christians?

IMO YES.
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murray hill farm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-05 09:08 PM
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3. I was raised Catholic...and i married a Catholic...
it was, it seemed OK that i divorced...what was not OK was that i could not remarry....so i lived in "sin" and that worked...ha! Such is life!
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-05 09:15 PM
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4. I'll add you to my list of many friends, divorced Catholics & remarried.
:hi:
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FloridaPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-05 09:16 PM
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5. Isn't this a male thing? Insecurity and ego? You don't hear about women
ganging up and beating lesbians. In fact, a lot of women like gays because you can have an intelligent conversation with a guy and not worry about his real motives.
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-05 09:20 PM
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6. well, if it will help you feel better, when my rightwing redneck ex first
me, I stayed in our church but it took less than a month after our divorce for the women and the men in that church to treat me like I was a pariah. They were nice to my three little boys at the time but you would think I'd turn into a floozie or something the way I was treated. Honestly, I haven't been back and that was almost 20 years ago.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-05 09:26 PM
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8. You probably looked pretty hot.
Their moral thermometer gets overheated whenever a good-looking newly-divorced person is too dangerously close.

I can beat your story. I was relatively young and I was single when I moved to this town I'm in now. A couple years later, I found out that some of the women had a "list" of the women to keep away from their men. My name was on it. I never laughed so much in my life, to think that some people can be so insecure as to pass around a list of loose (unattached) women considered dangerous.

Bwahahaha, still makes me laugh, 10 years later.
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BJW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-05 09:22 PM
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7. My Solution to the "Gay Marriage" Issue
is to agree with Christians that yes, marriage is a sacred institution, so sacred, in fact, that if you are a Christian and you get married in a church that you agree to give up all your state protected civil rights and property rights, and agree to abide by the Church's laws governing your "sacred marriage."

In return for our agreeing to let you have Church authority over your marriage, and our agreeing never to get married in a Church, you agree to let us gays and us secular humanists have our "civil marriages" with all the protections of our civil rights and property rights that the state offers.

Hey--if they want to eat cake, let 'em have a bakery! This will demonstrate, quite clearly, just how attractive these "sacred" marriages really are--No divorce, no property rights, no parental rights, stoning for adultery, no right to call the police to report DV, etc...
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-05 09:41 PM
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9. Some "beat up" equally well on both.
Which is to say, they condemn homosexuality and divorce, but you can be either gay or divorced and coexist amicably with them and even worship with them. But both groups are expected to be celibate.
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randr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-05 09:48 PM
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10. Psych 101
People will persecute and repress others that exhibit behavior repressed in themselves.
"I hate you for the things I hate about myself"-projection of inherent negative feelings toward oneself.
Most people deal with these issue as part of becoming a self assured adult.
Others lean on myths, like those found in the Bible, to justify their meanspiritness and to stay in denial regarding their own true nature.
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-05 12:54 PM
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11. Not to derail the thread, but
what happens when the person who was hated by the one projecting is subjected to that for years, and can't get over it?

What happens to that person?
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