Lawsuits Escalate Against Universities With Gay Rights Regulations

http://www.365gay.com/Newscon05/12/120505collegeSuit.htm

A conservative Christian law practice that already is suing several universities over gay rights regulations has filed suit against San Diego State and Cal State Long Beach claiming Christian students are being discriminated against.

The schools have refused recognition to campus groups which bar membership to gays and lesbians.

In a suit filed in federal court in San Diego the Alliance Defense Fund says the policies violate Christian students' constitutional right to free association.

The lawsuit was filed on behalf of Alpha Gamma Omega fraternity, Alpha Delta Chi sorority and Every Nation Campus Ministries.


I wonder how these groups would react if another group tried to bar certain Christians from their membership

being a Christian is a CHOICE!
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They're like nazi's complaining that their rights are being violated because the university has a problem with their exclusionary policies of jews and people with brown hair.

They view it as their birthright to not only make a judgement about gays but to act on their judgements. It's the christian version of "male privilege", as absurd as not allowing somebody membership to their group for having green eyes or a predilection for vegetarian food. The idea that they somehow have a priority of right to judge other people because they are christian - please somebody hand them a smackdown.

The most profound absurdity of people who hate gays is that the very act that defines "gayness" is purely an abstract to them. There are no outward manifestations of it, any more than gays sit at home "concerned" and sleepless all night long about heteros doing the hetero nasty. There is nothing but the "idea" that what consenting adults do with their lives is somehow everyone else's business.

You are correct - if this wins, somebody needs to form a group that loudly proclaims no so-called "christians" are to be allowed membership and take out a restraining orders / peace warrants on anyone who has a problem with it since the Army of God christians have already proven their willingness to use anthrax to make a point, or blow up Federal Buildings in Oklahoma City.

we can kiss goodbye all the anti-discrimination laws in this country! :grr:


Why do they feel that they have the right to bar gays and lesbians from their campus groups ... but the university doesn't have the right to bar bigoted, fundamentalist Christians from starting those campus groups? Why is it that they can say or do whatever they want against other people and it's "religion," but the minute someone says or does something against them, it's "discrimination?" :eyes:

I don't care what their religion is ... the whole world is not required to accommodate their hatred and bigotry!

Imagine that, these warped twisted American Talibans are claiming that their constitutional right to free association is being infringed upon. The cesspool of hypocrisy.
These people are about as Christian as an overflowed septic tank.

Here's some info on them from Media Matters:

ADF is classified as a 501(c)(3) public charity. According to the ADF website, the group is "a legal alliance defending the right to hear and speak the Truth through strategy, training, funding, and litigation." ADF defines this "Truth" according to a conservative Christian template, characterizing itself as "a servant organization that provides the resources that will keep the door open for the spread of the Gospel through the legal defense and advocacy of religious freedom, the sanctity of human life, and traditional family values."

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ADF focuses on three main issues:

"Guarding the Sanctity of Human Life": ADF is opposed to all forms of abortion and euthanasia.
"Protecting Family Values": ADF states that "God has defined marriage as one man married to one woman." ADF opposes same-sex marriage, adoption by same-sex couples, allowing gays and lesbians to serve in the military, and "xpos children to explicit sex education materials contrary to parental approval.
"Defending Religious Freedom": ADF opposes efforts by "the ACLU and other radical activist groups ... to eliminate public expression of our nation's faith and heritage." Among other goals, ADF seeks to " historic and Christian acknowledgement in public places" and legalize prayer in public schools and at public school functions.

http://mediamatters.org/items/200510140005

members or allies of the Alliance Defense Fund: Robert Tyler, Scott Lively, and Richard Ackerman.

Just to give you an idea of Lively and Ackerman's leanings ... this is an organization they link to on their website, and which they reportedly fund:

http://www.defendthefamily.com/ .

And here is their website:
http://www.livelyackerman.com/ .

I was so happy that Mr. Ackerman did NOT make it onto our local school board in Murrieta, Ca. in Nov. 2005.

Talk about a parallel universe where the members of an 80+% majority in this country whine about persecution. They wouldn't know persecution if it bit them in the testicles.

I'm reminded of an interesting blog entry I bookmarked from Dispatches on the Culture Wars, which nails the reason for the phenomenon (emphasis mine):

It has always baffled me that Christians could be convinced that they're an oppressed minority in a nation so thoroughly saturated with the presumption of their beliefs. They live in a nation with thousands of Christian newspapers and magazines, hundreds of Christian TV and radio stations, and tens of thousands of churches. They live in a nation where well over 90% of all of the legislators, judges and presidents in our entire history have been Christian to one degree or another. Where a court just the other day could rule that only Judeo-Christian invocations may be allowed at official government meetings, where our coins say "In God We Trust", where there are thousands of bible clubs and prayer groups in the schools. Yet they have managed to convince themselves, many of them, that they are a persecuted minority.

What they are objecting to, of course, is simply the fact that in the last 50 years or so those who do not believe as they do have begun to assert that they have a right not to be forced into following their rituals. Many of them still yearn for the day, and agitate politically for it to return, when they could take time out every single day in a school where attendance is mandatory and force children of all faiths or lack thereof to participate in their religious rituals. And they tell each other that because the courts will no longer give them that power over others, they are being persecuted. If you were to turn the tables and have their kids forced to pray five times a day toward Mecca, or perform a Hindu cleansing ritual, they would scream call that persecution, of course, but they can't think rationally enough to apply that same reasoning to those they seek to coerce.

Worth the read:
http://www.stcynic.com/blog/archives/2005/05/george_will_on_1.php