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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-07-06 09:34 AM
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Blackwell is darling of foes of gay marriage
http://www.cleveland.com/open/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/news/1147002913139070.xml&coll=2

Sunday, May 07, 2006
Ted Wendling
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Columbus -- In June 2003, a group of evangelical Christian leaders met in Arlington, Va., to map strategy for a clash they viewed as the political equivalent of Gettysburg, the greatest battle ever fought on American soil.

The group members, veterans of the culture war and the birth of the religious right that followed the U.S. Supreme Court's 1973 ruling legalizing abortion, coalesced around an issue that they felt crystallized the depths of depravity to which America had sunk -- same-sex marriage.

For Ohio Secretary of State Ken Blackwell, the timing couldn't have been more perfect.

Thought to have little chance of beating either Attorney General Jim Petro or Auditor Betty Montgomery in a Republican primary for governor, Blackwell seized the moment and led a successful, high-profile campaign to outlaw gay marriage in Ohio in 2004. In the process, he helped hand President Bush a second term...




Group's common denominator is opposition to gay marriage

http://www.cleveland.com/search/index.ssf?/base/news/1146990827239750.xml?nohio&coll=2

Sunday, May 07, 2006

The Arlington Group is an informal coalition of nearly 60 of the nation's most influential evangelical Christian leaders. It formed in the summer of 2003 to mount a nationwide campaign to oppose gay marriage. Following are vignettes on a few of its members:

Paul Weyrich

chairman, Free Congress Foundation,Washington.D.C.

A co-founder of the Arlington Group, he also is one of the founders of modern conservatism in the United States. His foundation is one of the pre-eminent think tanks dedicated to reversing America's "long slide into the cultural and moral decay of political correctness."...

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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-07-06 09:58 AM
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1. paul weyrich a neocon before there were neocons.
a man of questionable beliefs.

but he certainly sees the ability to manipulate true believers as an asset.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-07-06 10:16 AM
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2. what's the saying about a "sucker born every minute"?
aside from religion being all about money and power, and nothing more, really, people who fall for myths and fairy tales
as a substitute for personal responsibility can be led to do anything. remember, the nazis were not just germans, they were
overwhelmingly christians.

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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-07-06 11:06 AM
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4. what extremist christians will learn is that their corporate masters
are only interested in SOME of their games.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2268442

and not interested in others.
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JohnKay1000 Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-07-06 10:42 AM
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3. Blackwell's March To The Sea
At first, it was startling to see an African American up to his eyeballs in this corrupt administration of the Captive State of Ohio, decide to turn back the clock on civil rights for all Americans. Who can forget Karl Rove using an entire culture as scapegoats within their own country, just to keep his boss ensconced in his first win of the White House, rather than a second?

Where is the outrage that a Secretary of State for any in the Union would use a Bible to further an agenda against an entire class of people in a free country based upon freedom for all, not just some? By singling out the gay community, the very prejudice that saw his ancestors in this country treated as three fifths of a human being, is kept alive and well by a man who's apparently forgotten the tragic steps to freedom won by more courageous members of his race, his culture and perhaps his very own family? Talk about spitting on a hard won gift!

Blackwell's ignorance of the Bible shouldn't translate to persecution of anyone at any time, especially Levitical proscriptions written for the tribe of Levi. For that matter, the use of the Jewish Testament by anyone other than a Jew is the most laughable of any contention in this entire fiasco of ignoring historical facts and embracing the ignorance running rampant in this country. It doesn't belong to self professed Christians today, and it never did in the past. The Council of Nicaea made that perfectly clear in 325 AD, when the church of Rome stated it had never had anything to do with Judaism, and it would not in the future. Whether they like it or not, all protesting religions claiming a 'Christian' base, have little else to recommend them but their true base in the church of Rome. Still, that base is only seventeen hundred years old, and can claim no apostolic succession from James, the one and only Head of the Jerusalem Church at Qumran. It remains a thorn in the side of Rome to this very moment in time.

That proscription against the Jews in 325 AD, and the assertion's not been rescinded nor revisited in seventeen hundred years since Constantine erected this state run, state sponsored and state controlled Gnostic religion manned by 20,000 Gnostics, repaid for their services to the emperor. Constatine boosted his own role as the High Priest to Sol Invictus that made a man into a god, and there's very little chance Eusebius ever did catch up with the insane Constantine running down the marble halls of his palace for a little sprinkling before he passed on. Constantine died as he'd lived, as the High Priest to another religion entirely.

Using the Jewish Testament when it suits some, while pretending the New Testament supercedes the 'Old' or replaces it, is abundantly untrue to this day. As it is, the Gnostic church had same sex ceremonies early in the budding of this way of life, and all supposed' Christians' in Rome in the fourth century were Gnostics, without exception; all 20,000 of them in a religion that was actually dying off until Constantine intervened and elevated them to their surprise.

If Blackwell chooses to believe it's 'one man and one woman' where marriage is concerned, then let him understand this as well: there can be no divorce whatsoever under such tight wording. It must folow that only one man and one woman will be joined for life, no divorce will ever take place, and no children born to any union of ummarried parents will ever enjoy anything more than a bastard's status. That status must and will be presented on birth certificates that will stigmatize all children born under this cloud, and no 're' marriage may ever take place even upon the death of one spouse.

Marriage has never been entered into by any priest, minister or clergyperson at any time in recorded history as a third person to the proceeding. It is a contractual agreement entered into by two people with a specific time being stated, to make it a legal contract in the first place. Even that wording is changeable and can be changed not by a clergyperson, but the two entering into the agreement. Three people do not enter the marriage bed, only two. That alone should be make it rather evident who's involved here, and it shouldn't be Blackwell.

His involvement in the election process for Ohio in 2004 should make it obvious he wasn't doing his job then, he can't pretend he knows what it should be in a gubernatorial setting, following in his predecessor's footsteps whom he served above the very people he's forgotten all about. Just because Taft refused to resign as the honorable would do without hesitation, doesn't mean the man is welcome in the office he refused to leave.

Anyone who believes today's Christianity is rooted in ancient Judaism, doesn't know the Bible as it is, nor much about anything that was actually going on two thousand years ago. Blackwell's already made that perfectly clear. Let's be clear about much more. Let's keep the ignorant where they belong: searching for better answers, rather than pretending they're Teachers for anyone but themselves. His education to date is sorely lacking, his compassion nonexistent, and his vision clouded and as backward as anyone's with a vision of hell for everyone but themselves.

It seems time Ken Blackwell's glass was looked at more closely. It's more than half empty, it's drained of all sense, compassion or future for this state. Mr Blackwell needs to follow his dream as quickly as he can, while we permit him to retire from the public eye. Besides, hiding behind his wife's nonexistent skirts might be all the information we need, to draw more obvious conclusions?

Hide in plain sight. The Vatican's been doing it for centuries.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-09-06 12:14 PM
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5. Hi JohnKay1000!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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