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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 07:56 AM
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When Obama STARTS to court the RACIST voters, then we can BEGIN to have a dialogue...
Edited on Fri Jan-25-08 07:58 AM by TankLV
I am reposting this here because it is STILL extremely relevant...

and so far, NOT ONE obama defender has even TRIED to answer this.

Hint: It's the HYPOCRISY stupid!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=4149547
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 08:34 AM
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1. This sums it up nicely ...
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Then there’s Obama. In his effort to reach out to black voters, he booked ex-gay homophobe Donnie McClurkin on a gospel music tour through South Carolina. When LGBT supporters understandably criticized his choice of performer, Obama back-peddled and brought in another speaker to balance the event’s line-up: A white, gay pastor. There are any number of black LGBT or LGBT-friendly religious leaders and activists the campaign could have chosen who might have connected with a black evangelical audience, but instead they picked a speaker who, in the context of that event, sent the message that gay equals white. When the media questioned Obama about picking McClurkin, he claimed that it was important to dialogue with people with differing opinions. Dialogue is one thing; giving a homophobe a platform in your campaign is another.

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http://www.baywindows.com/index.php?ch=columnists&sc=editorial&sc2=&sc3=&id=54312
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:31 AM
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2. There is this:
http://www.gaylesbiantimes.com/?id=10906

A call for full equality
by Sen. Barack Obama
Published Thursday, 08-Nov-2007 in issue 1037

Over the last several weeks, the question of GLBT equality was placed on center stage by the appearance of Donnie McClurkin at one of my campaign events. McClurkin is a talented performer and a beloved figure among many African Americans and Christians around the country. At the same time, he espouses beliefs about homosexuality that I completely reject.
The events of the last several weeks are not the occasion that I would have chosen to discuss America’s divisions on gay rights and my own deep commitment to GLBT equality. Now that the issue is before us, however, I do not intend to run away from it. These events have provided an important opportunity for us to confront a difficult fact: There are good, decent, moral people in this country who do not yet embrace their gay brothers and sisters as full members of our shared community.
We will not secure full equality for all GLBT Americans until we learn how to address that deep disagreement and move beyond it. To achieve that goal, we must state our beliefs boldly, bring the message of equality to audiences that have not yet accepted it, and listen to what those audiences have to say in return.
For my entire career in public life, I have brought the message of GLBT equality to skeptical audiences as well as friendly ones. No other leading candidate in the race for the Presidency has demonstrated the same commitment to the principle of full equality. I support the full and unqualified repeal of the federal Defense of Marriage Act. While some say we should repeal only part of the law, I believe we should get rid of that statute altogether. Federal law should not discriminate in any way against gay and lesbian couples. I will also fight to repeal the U.S. military’s Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell policy, a law that should never have been passed, and my Defense Department will work with top military leaders to implement that repeal.
As President, I will use the bully pulpit to urge states to treat same-sex couples with full equality in their family and adoption laws. I personally believe that civil unions represent the best way to secure that equal treatment. But I also believe that the federal government should not stand in the way of states that want to decide on their own how best to pursue equality for gay and lesbian couples – whether that means a domestic partnership, a civil union, or a civil marriage. I will also place the weight of my administration behind the enactment of the Matthew Shepard Act to outlaw hate crimes and a fully inclusive Employment Non-Discrimination Act to outlaw workplace discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation and gender identity. I have supported fully inclusive protections since my days in the Illinois legislature, when I sponsored a bill to outlaw workplace discrimination that expressly included both sexual orientation and gender identity.
That is where I stand on the major issues of the day. But having the right positions on the issues is only half the battle. The other half is to win broad support for those positions. And winning broad support will require stepping outside our comfort zone. If we want to repeal DOMA, repeal Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell, and implement fully inclusive laws outlawing hate crimes and discrimination in the workplace, we need to bring the message of GLBT equality to people who are not yet convinced.
That’s why I brought this message of inclusiveness to all of America in my keynote address at the 2004 Democratic convention. I reiterated that message in the speech announcing my candidacy for President. Since beginning my campaign, I have been talking about GLBT equality on the stump, from rural farmers to Southern preachers. Just as important, I have been listening to what all Americans have to say in return. I will never compromise on my commitment to equal rights for all GLBT Americans. But neither will I close my ears to the voices of those who still need to be convinced. That is the work that we need to do if we are going to move forward together. It is difficult. It is challenging. And it is necessary.
The American people have been poorly served by two terms of an administration that seeks to manipulate us through fear: fear over national security, fear over immigrants and fear over gay and lesbian couples in loving relationships. Americans are yearning for leadership that will put an end to the fear mongering and instead begin empowering us once again to reach for the America we know is possible. I believe that we can achieve the goal of full equality for the millions of GLBT people in this country. To do that, we need leadership that appeals to the best parts of the human spirit, rather than the worst. Together, we will achieve real equality for all Americans, gay and straight alike.
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:59 AM
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3. It would be nice if this were more than election year rhetoric
His giving McClurkin a platform from which to preach hate, and his opposition to equal marriage, and his record on gay rights in general, tell me that this is statement is not believable.

When campaign statements are not backed up by action and voting record, I will believe action and voting record every single time.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 10:22 AM
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6. maybe this can help?
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Dante_ Donating Member (246 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 10:08 AM
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5. Well in Barack's defense...he did say WORDS are important
<*lol>
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 10:31 AM
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7. Maybe somebody else's words...
might help?

http://www.gay.com/news/article.html?2008/01/08/1

Taking stock of the gay vote
published Tuesday, January 8, 2008
Obama made a telling comment at the very end of my October interview with him. Dismayed over the level of attention the community gave to the McClurkin imbroglio, he said, "It is interesting to me and obviously speaks to the greater outreach that we have to do, that isn't a greater source of interest and pride on the part of the LGBT community."

He seemed genuinely disheartened that people didn't know more about his stance for full repeal of the Defense of Marriage Act (Edwards also supports full repeal, while Clinton supports partial repeal), or that he sponsored a gay nondiscrimination bill in the Illinois state legislature, or that he regularly addresses AIDS and homophobia in black and religious venues that are not particularly gay-friendly.

When he spoke about HIV/AIDS to evangelical leader Rick Warren's congregation at Saddleback Church in California, Obama said, "Like no other illness, AIDS tests our ability to put ourselves in someone else's shoes -- to empathize with the plight of our fellow man. While most would agree that the AIDS orphan or the transfusion victim or the wronged wife contracted the disease through no fault of their own, it has too often been easy for some to point to the unfaithful husband or the promiscuous youth or the gay man and say 'This is your fault. You have sinned.' I don't think that's a satisfactory response. My faith reminds me that we all are sinners."

This is perfectly consistent with his message of bridging communities gay and straight, red and blue, black and white. But a big part of why gay men and lesbians don't know Obama's record here is because it wasn't readily available. It required digging and a beat reporter covering his campaign at the national level -- resources that are the province of mainstream magazines and big-city dailies. This is where a publication like The Advocate, viewed by many as essentially mainstream media, doesn't actually have the same reporting capacity as those other outlets. Instead, the LGBT community and gay journalists were left to put together information piecemeal from sightings by bloggers at campaign events and the slow trickle of gay mentions that flow from the straight press.

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Time is also precious for candidates leading the pack, and doing interviews at the local level becomes a near-impossibility. But history is one of the best gauges of how a candidate will behave when he or she becomes president, and it's worth noting that Obama was very accessible to the LGBT press during his eight years in the Illinois legislature.

"He always was open, certainly with our newspaper," says Gary Barlow, editor of one of Chicago's gay weeklies, the Chicago Free Press. "He didn't avoid phone calls and stuff like that. We talked on occasion. When we called, he responded. I think that says something about a person." Barlow adds that Obama's campaign has paid close attention to the newspaper and been communicative throughout the race.

Though the Illinois Human Rights Act did not pass until 2005, when Obama had already graduated to the U.S. Senate, he did sponsor a bill to outlaw workplace discrimination that included both sexual orientation and gender identity while he was still a state senator. Barlow says Obama also lobbied other legislators to vote for the pro-gay bills being considered. "When we're talking about an African-American legislator in the state legislature, to have someone of his stature lobbying his peers was important," says Barlow.

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Dante_ Donating Member (246 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 10:05 AM
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4. The black community hesitated with AIDS because f this bigotry.
Edited on Fri Jan-25-08 10:06 AM by Dante_
I was a volunteer and an activist during the bad days of the AIDS epidemic. When we tried warning about the trend for blacks in the area of AIDS the silence was deafening.

there were some very inspiring and wonderful profiles in courage in that community and they took heat for their principled and courageous stands, but the bigots will always be able to slow things down because they use...fear...fear of the other.

On gay marriage in Massachusetts, there was a black woman, State Senator named Diane Wilkerson, who was slammed in the black community and from the pulpits for doing the principled thing, but she was mostly alone in coming out vocally.

There is a dirty little secret in the black community when it comes to the issue of gays....

The bigots in the pulpits and the store fronts, rule
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:27 PM
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8. still waiting - crickets chirping...
aren't white racist voters just as important as homophobic bigots?

aparently not...

Hypocrisy STILL reigns supreme at the obama camp...
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:51 PM
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9. what is it that you're waiting for?
Edited on Fri Jan-25-08 09:54 PM by stillcool47
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 11:06 PM
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10. lack of reading comprehension skills must be a requirement for obamabots, we see...
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