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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 07:56 AM
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Coward Oklahoma State Rep. in hiding




Rep. Sally Kern

By MICK HINTON World Capitol Bureau
3/19/2008

OKLAHOMA CITY -- Advocates of gay and lesbian rights came to the Capitol in force Tuesday in hopes of meeting with Rep. Sally Kern, but they were told that the lawmaker who called homosexuality worse than "terrorists and Islam" was nowhere to be found. Mmmm hmmmm.

About 300 people gathered to protest Kern's recent comments, which ended up on YouTube and drew national attention.

Robin Meyers, senior minister at Mayflower Congregational Church in Oklahoma City, said Kern's homophobic comments are a "national embarrassment for Oklahoma."

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"I'd have no problem meeting with them next week when I have my lawyer," she said.

:eyes: sure lady

http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?articleID=20080319_1_A9_hButa25141

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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 07:57 AM
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1. She should go.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 07:59 AM
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2. Who are her allies? Are you going to ask them if they are going to denounce her? nt
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 08:06 AM
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3. Who are her allies? I don't get your question.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 08:09 AM
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4. Similar to Obama & Wright, who are the people around her who are in the public eye?
They should at least be asked about what she said.
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 08:15 AM
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6. Yea, anyone who supports what she said should be
questioned.

But I imagine they're mostly hopeless right wing fundamentalist Christian conservatives.

So....if you have names for me....

I'm almost sure Donnie McClurkin is sending her roses and a card.
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bbernardini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 08:10 AM
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5. You think she's full of hate? Check out the comments on topix.com about this.
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 08:19 AM
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7. Yea, I agree those are some hateful people.....but it's
obviously a little more disturbing when one of the crazy assholes is a lawmaker.
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plantwomyn Donating Member (779 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 01:25 PM
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13. Ya, but you've got to love this comment.
13. 3/19/2008 7:53:12 AM, Your Adoring Fan,
Dear Sally Kern:
Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God's Law. I have learned a great deal from your speech, and try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind them that the bible clearly states it to be an abomination ... End of debate.

I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some other elements of God's Laws and how to follow them.

1. Leviticus 25:44 states that I may possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians?

2. I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?

3. I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanliness - Lev.15: 19-24. The problem is how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.

4. When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord - Lev.1:9. The problem is, my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?

5. I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2. clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself, or should I ask the police to do it?

6. A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination - Lev. 11:10, it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this? Are there 'degrees' of abomination?

7. Lev. 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle-room here?

8. Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev. 19:27. How should they die?

9. I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?

10. My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev.19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? Lev.24:10-16. Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair, like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)

I know you have studied these things extensively and thus enjoy considerable expertise in such matters, so I am confident you can help. Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is eternal and unchanging.

Your adoring fan
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 08:31 AM
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8. 'when I have my lawyer," she said.
oh brother.

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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 01:23 AM
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17. I guess....
....sometimes Jesus just isn't enough.

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qb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 09:02 AM
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9. I'll bet she compares notes with Minnesota's Michele Bachmnan
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hulklogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 09:08 AM
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10. I'm surprised she didn't demand that the Department of Homeland Security
protect her from those gay homersexual terrists. :silly:

I feel so sorry for her children. I bet she made them dress like Jesus for halloween.
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 09:14 AM
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11. "I bet she made them dress like Jesus for halloween."
:spray:

I can't breathe

bwahahahaa
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Creideiki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 10:37 AM
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12. Why does she need a lawyer?
What she did was repulsive, but is it illegal?
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 01:56 PM
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14. She might see all teh gays and pull out a gun or something
unless she has someone there to talk her down.
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swimmernsecretsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 06:04 PM
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15. Good. Stay hidden. I hear Mordor is lovely this time of year.
She can go on polishing her ring of power.
http://vwt.d2g.com:8081/15-Mordor.jpg
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canis_lupus Donating Member (213 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 06:39 PM
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16. Maybe she needs a lawyer to protect her ...
just in case those horrible gay people attempt to do her hair (which she definitely needs!) or redecorate her office.

I have met some really nice folks from Oklahoma, but I have to wonder if Sally didn't get swept into office on the "inbred to the point of idiocy" constituency.
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 01:32 AM
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18. A Brilliant Reply to Sally Kern
Scienceblogs.com
Dispatches From the Culture Wars
Posted on: March 13, 2008 9:16 AM, by Ed Brayton

Found this at Pam's House Blend. It's a letter from a high school senior whose mother died in the Oklahoma City bombing. He's not happy about Kern claiming that gays are worse than terrorists and he tells her so with great eloquence. Full text below the fold:

Rep Kern:

On April 19, 1995, in Oklahoma City a terrorist detonated a bomb that killed my mother and 167 others. 19 children died that day. Had I not had the chicken pox that day, the body count would've likely have included one more. Over 800 other Oklahomans were injured that day and many of those still suffer through their permanent wounds.

That terrorist was neither a homosexual or was he involved in Islam. He was an extremist Christian forcing his views through a body count. He held his beliefs and made those who didn't live up to them pay with their lives.

As you were not a resident of Oklahoma on that day, it could be explained why you so carelessly chose words saying that the homosexual agenda is worst than terrorism. I can most certainly tell you through my own experience that is not true. I am sure there are many people in your voting district that laid a loved one to death after the terrorist attack on Oklahoma City. I kind of doubt you'll find one of them that will agree with you.

I was five years old when my mother died. I remember what a beautiful, wise, and remarkable woman she was. I miss her. Your harsh words and misguided beliefs brought me to tears, because you told me that my mother's killer was a better person than a group of people that are seeking safety and tolerance for themselves.

As someone left motherless and victimized by terrorists, I say to you very clearly you are absolutely wrong.

You represent a district in Oklahoma City and you very coldly express a lack of love, sympathy or understanding for what they've been through. Can I ask if you might have chosen wiser words were you a real Oklahoman that was here to share the suffering with Oklahoma City? Might your heart be a bit less cold had you been around to see the small bodies of children being pulled out of rubble and carried away by weeping firemen?

I've spent 12 years in Oklahoma public schools and never once have I had anyone try to force a gay agenda on me. I have seen, however, many gay students beat up and there's never a day in school that has went by when I haven't heard the word **** slung at someone. I've been called gay slurs many times and they hurt and I am not even gay so I can just imagine how a real gay person feels. You were a school teacher and you have seen those things too. How could you care so little about the suffering of some of your students?

Let me tell you the result of your words in my school. Every openly gay and suspected gay in the school were having to walk together Monday for protection. They looked scared. They've already experienced enough hate and now your words gave other students even more motivation to sneer at them and call them names. Afterall, you are a teacher and a lawmaker, many young people have taken your words to heart. That happens when you assume a role of responsibility in your community. I seriously think before this week ends that some kids here will be going home bruised and bloody because of what you said.

I wish you could've met my mom. Maybe she could've guided you in how a real Christian should be acting and speaking.

I have not had a mother for nearly 13 years now and wonder if there were fewer people like you around, people with more love and tolerance in their hearts instead of strife, if my mom would be here to watch me graduate from high school this spring. Now she won't be there. So I'll be packing my things and leaving Oklahoma to go to college elsewhere and one day be a writer and I have no intentions to ever return here. I have no doubt that people like you will incite crazy people to build more bombs and kill more people again. I don't want to be here for that. I just can't go through that again.

You may just see me as a kid, but let me try to teach you something. The old saying is sticks and stones will break your bones, but words will never hurt you. Well, your words hurt me. Your words disrespected the memory of my mom. Your words can cause others to pick up sticks and stones and hurt others.

Sincerely

Tucker

What is it with kids writing brilliant letters these days? Whatever it is, let's see more of it. Nice job, Tucker.

http://scienceblogs.com/dispatches/2008/03/a_brilliant_reply_to_sally_ker.php


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