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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 06:10 AM
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Church's 'loving warning' to gay teens: 'I kissed a girl...then I went to hell'


Katy Perry's pop hit about a girl-on-girl kiss has prompted an Ohio church to expand on the message on its roadside sign, The Columbus Dispatch reported.

"It's not something that is really a shock if you're a scriptural person," said the Rev. Dave Allison of the 100-member Havens Corners Church in Blacklick, Ohio. "We meant that as a loving warning to teens."

"The Scriptures," Allison added, "tell us that you should not do what the song tells you to do. The Scriptures are not ambiguous on this issue."

Equality Ohio director Lynne Bowman acknowledged the church's right to its beliefs and notes that at least 300 churches in Ohio are more welcoming than Havens Corners. "That sign just tells where they cannot go to find the love and faith in Christ," she said.

"It's just rude," said local resident Wendy Olinski. "At first I have to say I laughed hysterically because I was shocked...It was obvious: 'If you're gay, you're going to hell.'"

"But that's going way too far," she added.

http://pageoneq.com/news/2008/Churchs_loving_warning_to_gay_teens_Kiss_a_girl_g_0904.html
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MullenBank Donating Member (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 06:42 AM
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1. Abomination
Edited on Fri Sep-05-08 06:43 AM by MullenBank
See For The Bible Tells Me So an excellent documentary on the subject of Biblical treatment of homosexuality. The short-- "abomination"- and I'm sure we all know the reference-- really means "against custom or tradition". BTW the bible also considers mixing wool and linen, short hair on women and eating shrimp to be abomination.

The good news- you won't go to hell if you're a man and you like cock. Alright!!!
The alt side- you won't go to heaven either.

There is no god. You are not damned. You are not saved. One day you will cease to exist. Deal with it.


On Edit: First In!!!!!
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 08:48 AM
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2. The word is more along the lines of "ritually impure"
Several Hebrew words get translated as "abomination." The one that is used in the context of male-male homosexual acts is T'V (tet,'ayin, vau.) II Kings 16:3, for example, uses the phrase to'evah ha-goyim, "uncleanness of the gentiles." The word is also used to describe pork, shellfish, catfish, shrimp, temple prostitution, idolatry, sexual intercourse with a woman during her menstrual period and a few other things, usually with the same word not being translated as "abomination" in Christian Bibles.
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hulklogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 09:18 AM
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3. I kissed a girl in high school and I didn't really like it
so am I safe?
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Fearless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 09:40 AM
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5. Sounds like a fair assumption.
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cosmic _mind Donating Member (80 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 09:26 AM
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4. depressing
it's just sad that there are so many morons in the world. Many people are religious and don't believe this crap. It's those who can't be bothered to think for themselves. Who have to take this silly song and turn it into something evil. People are being beaten and murdered around the world for being gay. And this is the 21st century? Depressing.
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codjh9 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 10:27 AM
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6. Funny, 'cuz I hope THEY rot in Hell! Big-time!
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crimsonblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 02:04 PM
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7. OH NOES!!!
I'm a male, and I kissed a girl! Am I going to hell now? Thank you Havens Corners Church for letting me know that I need to become gay to go to heaven!!!!
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dbackjon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 02:56 PM
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8. I'm gay, and I have never kissed a girl. HEAVEN HERE I COME!
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:00 PM
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9. in my experience shortly after kissing a girl you have an orgasm
i guess they were kissing the wrong girl
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Zuiderelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 10:32 AM
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14. Maybe they mean it like the "little death"... it's the "little hell."
:think:
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JustFiveMoreMinutes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:48 PM
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10. Little Timmy and his soccer mom were driving by the sign...
... Little Timmy, who is 7, doens't listen to pop music and isn't aware of the background of the sign.

He turns to his Mom, almost in tears, and in all earnestly begs...

" MOM MOM MOM, am I GOING TO HELL BECAUSE I KISSED KATIE in the school play?"

Poor Timmy.
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Toasterlad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 07:02 PM
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11. Funniest Mom Ever:
"Yes, Timmy, you are."

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JustFiveMoreMinutes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 10:13 PM
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12. Touche' and OUCH! hahaha
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Karl_Bonner_1982 Donating Member (701 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:56 PM
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13. They have to stir up the hard-line negativity, don't they?
Remind people that the right wing still does not condone gay love. Only when social conservatives start losing election after election, both in candidates and ballow measures, will they finally be forced to either change their positions or accept permanent political defeat.
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MNBrewer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 02:42 PM
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15. Does "Go to Hell!" sound loving to any of you?
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Falcon_Lights1916 Donating Member (69 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 11:55 PM
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16. Not really...
but then I tbink this is much more about control, even if they want to call it "love".
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MNBrewer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 10:15 AM
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18. Normally
Control: Love
Tomato: Tomahto

People conflate the two all the time.
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Lyric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 09:34 AM
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17. My beloved ThinkBlue1966's comment:
"Oh man. I've been doing my best to get to hell for ten years! Now come over here and let me damn myself some more!"

:rofl:

I love that woman. :loveya:
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lightningandsnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 05:18 PM
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19. So if you don't like it, you're spared?
Like, if she's a bad kisser? Uses too much tongue?
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 03:01 PM
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20. "Loving warning" minus the love.
Also known as a threat.
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 03:15 PM
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21. yep, god hates happy people
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Crowman1979 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 07:19 PM
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22. WellI might as well buy that Katy Perry song just to piss em off!
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cindydivine Donating Member (79 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 12:26 AM
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24. Hell yeah
Even if I didn't like that song I would now need to buy it...

Unless, wait, it is all corporate conspiracy telling me to buy it...yikes!

MY HEAD HURTS

hehehehehehehe :evilgrin:
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 11:54 PM
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23. See, this shit here is why i don't believe DU christians when they say
"It's only the /bad christians" or "this isn't what christ preached" or "there are progressive churches that don't believe these things"

Bullshit. Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit.

This IS what the bible says. There ARE biblical beliefs. These ARE mainstream christians saying these things.

Why is it that this is so difficult for the christians supposedly "on our side" to believe, that they are in such an extreme minority, and that their religion is in fact this hateful and despicable as a whole?

(That includes all sects, by the way. I'm done drawing that particular distinction. It's all christianity, and it's either christianity, or it's not. Sects, as far as I'm concerned, no longer count as legitimate divisions.)
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