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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 05:02 PM
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The Economist, of all places, calls for end to "don't ask/don't tell"
They'll surprise ya, sometimes. A very positive piece on why this policy is so unnecessary and so counter-productive. The full editorial is online at: http://www.economist.com/printedition/displayStory.cfm?Story_ID=3695951

I believe the story is available to non-subscribers. But here's the gist of it:

Feb 24th 2005
America should learn from its allies and let gays serve openly

... in America, self-declared gay warriors are not allowed. As a piece of discrimination of no practical benefit, this is wrong.

... Since 1993, more than 10,000 gay Americans have been booted back onto Civvy Street. Not a large number, perhaps, when America has nearly 2.5m people in uniform. But many of those ousted possessed valuable skills: between 1998 and 2004, 20 relatively rare Arabic speakers and six Farsi speakers were forcibly discharged after they were found to be gay.

...

According to a recent poll of enlisted men, more than half thought gays should be allowed in the armed forces. In the current time of overstretch, even the older, more conservative, officer class seems to be changing heart. The number of gay discharges rose steadily till 2001, when America went to war in Afghanistan; since then the annual figure has halved. As for the idea that the ban reflects American mores, polls suggest that at least 64% of Americans would allow gay soldiers.

Congress should look at the British example. In 2000, when the queen's army jumped out of its closet (so to speak), many senior officers were aghast. Their arguments then were similar to American fears now: sooner or later, showers and bars of soap were mentioned. Four years later, recruitment has not suffered; most new recruits are unfazed about meeting gay comrades. And with gays subject to the same rules governing appropriate behaviour as heterosexuals, the showers need hold no fears for happily-married men. Come on, Rummy, what are you afraid of?


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liberalpragmatist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 05:07 PM
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1. The Economist is socially liberal
They're liberal in the European state - free markets and free thought. So they're really not too comfortable with the US political system. They tend to endorse Conservative economics and they undersell the Democrats, but they're often pretty harsh on Republican economics and remember they endorsed Kerry in the election saying Bush was "thoroughly incompetent."
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grumpy old fart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 05:08 PM
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2. Yeah, like the Fundicon party is gonna get behind that one!
Haven't you read the memo. It's back to the Dark Ages fo Amerika...
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Wright Patman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 05:08 PM
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3. Any gay who would
even want to volunteer for Chimpy's army at this point would have to be totally insane.

In fact, I would think the converse would now be happening. Many who "thought" they were hetero when they enlisted are now suddenly experiencing a change in orientation.
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 05:10 PM
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4. last stop before the draft!
Second to the last I guess. First we'll start drafting furriners and offering them citizenship if they don't get killed in the line of duty.

Let's be perfectly cynical about this. There are enough soldiers who wouldn't think twice about claiming to be queer in order to get out of Iraq that this policy is now becoming problematic for the military.

This has nothing to do with altruism or civil rights.

Nonetheless, I'm not complaining - it's long overdue. And if us queers can die for "freedoms" and our country you can be damn sure that you had better let us marry the people we love in our country.



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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 05:39 PM
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5. Plus, the weapons training could be valuable.
Eeek. Did I just say that? Sorry... one too many stories about the Phelps klan this week. I'm a bit riled up. :D
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