Transsexual Discrimination OK NY Court Rules

http://www.365gay.com/newscon05/04/040105tgCourt.htm

A New York State appeals court has dismissed a lawsuit by a AIDS awareness group filed after a landlord refused to renew the organization's lease because transgendered clients were using the building's common-area rest rooms.

The suit accused the landlord of illegal eviction and accused the landlord of complaining the transgender clients were using the "wrong" bathrooms.

The ACLU first brought the lawsuit on behalf of the Hispanic AIDS Forum in June 2001. HAF was forced out of its home of 10 years in Jackson Heights, Queens – an epicenter of the AIDS epidemic in U.S. Latino communities.


"If you're biologically a man, if you're born a man, then you use the men's room. There's no bias against anyone."

but if you're dressed in women's clothing, and you walk into a men's room, what do you think is gonna happen?

from my reading, they haven't gone through the surgery

They may not have completed the process, but they are transitioning and deserve to have that fully respected. Just because someone still has their original genitalia does not make them any less transgendered. That surgery is the final step of what can be a very long road, and one that some transgendered people never take for a variety of reasons.

...like any kind of surgery, expensive, not without risks (as are a great many kinds of medical procedures, even routine ones), and require a lengthy recovery period followed by continued medical observation.
The surgery, being elective, is rarely covered, and, unless the patient is fully prepared to handle the expense, is not able to be performed. There are exceptions, of course, and greater acceptance has led to medical coverage.
In the case of FTM transexuals, the medical procedures that are used to imitate the male genitalia will never create anything resembling male genitalia, and the most up-to-date procedure uses a grafting technique from tissue harvested from the patient's arm, resulting in severe scarring.

just because someone has a penis, that doesn't make them a "man"

if a number of TransMen were frequenting the Courthouse Ladies Room. Are full beards appropriate fashion in the Ladies room?

Boyfriend know what bathroom to use since he still lives his life as a TG butch dyke? He was escorted out of the women's bathroom at Carnegie Hall even though 99 times out of 100 he does not pass for a male since he is not on T yet.

Why be uncomfortable with TG people in the bathroom? Are they afraid that TG people will be 'attracted' to them in their vulnerable, nude state? How is it any different than gay or lesbian people in your bathroom?

Of all the FTMs I know, ZERO want bottom surgery the way it stands today. It is incredibly risky (they remove the vaginal canal and rewire the urethra) with almost zero sexual benefits (you can't exactly get an erection or feel sexual pleasure). Not to mention that the whole magilla can cost $100,000. Most FTMs use packies and silicone dicks. Most FTMs I know are more concerned about their pecs than their penises anyway.

The fact that the government forces FTMs to go through risky, useless, expensive surgery that they don't even want to get 'their papers' is madness.

We live in NYC because a major city is the best chance we have to live without discrimination. Oh well.

GRRRRRRRRR.

Doesn't New York City already have a non-discrimination policy in place that explicitly allows people to use bathrooms consistent with their gender of identification?