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Celebration Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-08 08:05 AM
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Be wary of granite that glows
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/5908630.html

Last August, Consumer Reports magazine — ever alert to stylish trends among its affluent readers — pinpointed the growing popularity of natural stone countertops, demand for which had increased 5 percent annually for the previous five years. But for Rice University physics professor W.J. Llope, the article's title, "Countertops: The Hottest Rocks," carried an unsettling irony.

Some granite countertops, he says, contain high levels of uranium, which, by generating gamma radiation and radon gas, can endanger human health.

"Most stones, in terms of radioactivity, are relatively quiet," Llope said. "But there are a couple I have found that are insanely hot."

Using a Rice University spectrometer, Llope has examined 55 stones, representing about 25 varieties of granite purchased from Houston-area dealers. Some, he said, could expose homeowners to 100 millirems of radiation — the annual exposure limit set by the Department of Energy for visitors to nuclear labs — in just a few months.

Llope, who said he plans to publish his findings in a peer-reviewed journal, declined to name the most hazardous varieties of granite he has thus far examined. But he said dangerously radioactive varieties include striated granites from Brazil and Namibia.


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catgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-08 08:11 AM
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1. Thanks for posting this
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-08 08:12 AM
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2. Holy crap! I live in the "Granite State"!
That explains alot.
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Celebration Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-08 09:20 AM
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10. you can check your home for radon n/t
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SmileyRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-08 08:13 AM
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3. he declined to name which samples were dangerous?
I don't understand why a scientist would NOT spread the news far and wide as quickly as possible to stop people from killing their families with their countertops. :shrug:
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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-08 08:35 AM
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5. Seems like hysterical over reaction to me.
First, scientists do not typically release their findings before they are peer reviewed.

Second, the dose in question is smaller than the dose received by people who live near granite formations.

Third, there is no correlation between tiny doses of radiation and health problems.

Remember, the sun is radioactive too. And each time you walk in the sunshine you are exposed to radiation.
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HamdenRice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-08 07:04 PM
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15. Too bad so many reflexive corporate defenders don't understand radon/cancer risk
Edited on Sat Jul-26-08 07:06 PM by HamdenRice
and of course, this post is a classic example of pro corporate woo woo.

As the New York Times reported last week, some granite counter tops contain uranium, which, when it decays, gives off radon.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/24/garden/24granite.html

Some of these countertops give off radon emissions at the levels usually associated with basement radon, which has been shown to cause lung cancer. That's why, at the urging of federal and state environmental protection agencies, people test for radon in their homes, and some are getting rid of their countertops.

In the Times article, a doctor found that her counter top was emitting radon and had it removed. Radon is the second leading cause of cancer after smoking, and the effect of radon emitted from a particularly "hot" counter top can be equal to smoking a half a pack of cigarettes per day.

Of course, if you are an aging, robotically pro corporate/pro government poster, you would want to minimize this science, but most of us would not.

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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-08 07:09 PM
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16. You sure spout off a lot
for someone with so little education.
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HamdenRice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-08 07:42 PM
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17. Why not do something different for a change and respond to substance
Did you read the NY Times article? Or is it too advanced for you?

It really is written in terms that a high school graduate of average intelligence should be able to understand. I realize that may be a bit above your level, but with a dictionary and a highlighter, you might be able to grasp the content and make a meaningful response to the substance rather than throw out a false and meaningless insult, as is your usual modus operandi.
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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-08 08:12 PM
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18. I doubt if you know a millirem from a millisevert
And I don't want to waste my time educating you.

I prefer to giggle at your ignorance.

:)
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Celebration Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-08 09:12 AM
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8. because it varies
From countertop to countertop, even from the same quarry. Most are probably fine. There are detection kits for radon.
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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-08 08:21 AM
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4. FWIW
The Texas State Capital is made of pink granite from the Llano area.

It is estimated that employees who work 2000 hours a year in that building get a dose of 250 millirems per year. That is a tiny fraction of the maximum occupational dose allowed by federal regulations and far less that the people who live in the Llano area get.

To the best of my knowledge there are no cancer clusters or other negative health effects from this exposure.
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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-08 08:59 AM
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6. Then How Do You Explain Former Gov. Bush?.......nt
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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-08 09:12 AM
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9. Inherited genetic defects. n/t
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Cornus Donating Member (720 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-08 09:10 AM
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7. Wish I knew about this sooner
I'm now in the final stage of a complete kitchen remodel. The granite counter tops were installed earlier this week!
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safeinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-08 09:30 AM
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11. Just put in mine a couple of weeks ago
Damn near 60 years old and don't want to live forever anyway. Stopped being concerned about mercury, sun exposure and all that stuff a few years ago. Now it is quality of life I live for.
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Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-08 10:15 AM
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12. I put mine in 5 years ago
and they are just beautiful. I guess we will get a kit and test them. I hope they are ok as it is the best counter top I have ever had and I cringe at the thought of dismantling my kitchen again.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-08 10:34 AM
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13. Oh, good, another reason to avoid this silly fad
Never mind that even the best sealed granite remains porous enough to attract food particles and bacteria, never mind dropping a can of beans on it in the wrong spot has caused it to crack, never mind how heavy and expensive to replace it is when you get sick of the color, now faddists are finding out what New Englanders have known for years: it produces radon gas.

Countertops aren't going to produce enough to be a health threat, of course. People will experience more morbidity from the bacteria and from the expense of replacing granite should it fail or go out of fashion.
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-08 12:24 PM
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14. Most people take this sort of thing for granite
For this reason, I'm having my countertop carved out of raw diamond. Take that, can of beans!
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varkam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-08 09:44 PM
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19. l prefer my counters to be made from...
the bones of newborn babies. Cleanup is a breeze!
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-08 01:45 PM
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20. Well that ties it. The rice cooking by itself on the countertop is
no longer a mystery for me.
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