Do Not Be One More

Lets find out why this vaccine is making some girls sick before we give it to more.
Maybe some girls should not have the vaccine, or maybe there is an ingredient in the vaccine
that shouldn't be there.

Lets find out and save some lives and health, instead of throwing them away.

Six girls, one diagnoses, not related to Gardasil I might add. Holly is pretty hot though. I hope they all figure out what's wrong with them and get the help they need.

David

I thought it was great idea until I did a bit of researching for a grandaughter and told her that cervical cancer may not be as bad as the side effects from the vaccine. Who knows how long this stuff stays in a system? Cervical cancer is fairly easy to treat if caught early enough.

"cervical cancer may not be as bad as the side effects from the vaccine."



Sid

the vaccine? Some were tested for the wart virus and were free of that one and yet after taking the vaccine started getting warts and sometimes in goofy places like the face, etc. That was the one that told me they don't know all they should about the vaccine. There were other stories and just because someone had problems they never had before, shortly after taking the cure/vaccine, isn't an absolute but definitely something to consider. I had cervical cancer when I was 30 and even tho it was a bit more severe than the usual discovery when a persons goes annually, it was still treated successfully and that was 40 years ago. I have known many women treated and recovered from it without any or many side effects. I happen to have radiation treatment, but there were unusual circumstances. But the vaccine doesn't seem to be the answer yet until there are more studies. Hey, just opinions, but we must not assume our FDA is looking out for us.....

You should try it sometime! :eyes:

or would you rather see more girls injured and killed first?

blah blah blabbity blah *YAWN*

you care so much about girls health that its a big yawn.

But I find your continual ad hom attacks and panicked bleating "BAAAAA-BAAAAA BAAAAAAAAAAD!!!" a huge fucking yawn.

If it kills you, is sure aint helping.

If it paralyzes you, it isn't better than cervical cancer.

If your goal is to help people then you should not object to requiring that this
vaccine be investigated and causes of these illnesses and deaths determined.

You should not want healthy girls being harmed by a vaccine.

I never said I want healthy girls to be harmed, yet another ad hom. How many replies do you need to make to a single post in less than 3 minutes?

that is not an ad hominem attack.

Can you answer the question?

are verifiable. I support reasearch, not bullshit ad hom attacks and fearful bleating.

I have known quite a number of girls and young women who have developed mysterious illnesses, which have lasted for a long time. A former student of mine has been severely and mysteriously ill for the last three or four years; she is just showing possible signs now of beginning to recover. A 17-year-old who came to do 'work experience' with me recently needed special adaptations as she is unable to climb stairs and must use a wheelchair when she walks more than a short time; it was not a congenital condition, and she has never had an injury that could explain it. A friend, when in her 20s, developed serious exhaustion, and many symptoms of kidney trouble, but investigations revealed no specific kidney disorder. The first two have been classed under the broad umbrella definition of ME/ chronic fatigue syndrome; the third has no diagnosis. None of these people ever had Gardasil! Before assuming that Gardasil 'makes girls sick', one needs to have a control group of girls who don't take Gardasil, and see how frequently serious illnesses occur in that group.

I certainly support more research overall into the nature and causes of illnesses developing in late adolescence and early adulthood.

the Gardasil group should be compared to an equivalent group that does not get a vaccine, not the
placebo either.

Some girls get sick after getting this vaccine. Some do not. We should find out why, so as
to either keep some girls from getting vaccinated, fix the vaccine, or stop it.

It could be that some of the ingredients make some girls sick, like the yeast.

The similar vaccine, Ceravix - uses a different ajutant, not aluminum, haven't heard about
it making anyone sick, although perhaps it does.

But an epidemiologist friend of mine said just what you said, there needs to be a study with
a real control group. Not a placebo group.

probably disagree with you there. Obviously if a girl dies because of a medical procedure, well then that procedure didn't help her much at all did it? But what about the five or six million girls now protected against a very serious, life-threatening illness?

At the very least they should all come with a quick disclaimer about the risks inherent in accepting the vaccine and allow the girls to make their own decision, one in a few million chance of dying, or cancer?

I am not trivializing the devastation caused by Cervical cancer.

Cervical cancer IS a rare disease in our country.

It isn't easy to treat once you have it.

It can be prevented by having regular pap smears that detect precancerous stages and
taking action to ward it off.

Most people get the HPV virus and their bodies eliminate it naturally.

The point of my op is that we need to find out what is in the Gardasil vaccine that is
making some health girls sick, and is making some healthy girls die.

It is possible that this vaccine will harm more people than cervical cancer would have, but
it is too soon to know.

Again, Cervical cancer is a rare disease, and gets rarer every day in modern countries.

HPV is NOT a cervical cancer vaccine, and if you already have the strains of HPV before getting
the vaccine, it can exacerbate them.

Also, Gardasil has NOT been tested to see if it causes cancer, and we do NOT have proof that it prevents cancer.

I won't have my daughter injected with this because we don't know enough about it and
there is too much at stake.

:popcorn:

:boring:

by mislabeling its vaccine as if it were a vaccine against certivical cancer and not
against 4 strains of HPV.

Hilarious.

I don't get the point of this post and don't find useful information in it. I do find confusing information.

"Vaccinated July, Sept., January. Symptoms started in two weeks." Uh, two weeks from July or from Sept or from January? "Vaccinated May & July." Symptoms started immediately. Uh, if fainting, dizziness, nausea, etc. started *immediately*, isn't that a clue not to go back for more?

"Symptoms started in two weeks." I ate an apple last month and got diarrhea a week later. I'm sticking to pears from now on. What is the evidence that something two weeks later had anything to do with it? What other possibilities did they ask about or test for?

What's with the repeated "family history of allergies"? Are you saying that there's some evidence that family history of allergies suggests potential problems with Gardasil? That's all I can guess, but it's obviously only my guess. I know that every time I get a shot or a new medication, the medical folks always ask me about allergies; heck, they often ask even when they're not about to give me something, just to be sure to have it in my records. Do all these families have the same allergy history or some allergic to ragweed, some to eggs, some to wheat, some to soy, etc? If allergies are the problem, why all the frenzy about mercury or lead or fluoride or whatever it is?

"The information is on the internet. Go to a Yahoo group." Don't know about anyone else, but I *always* do my medical research in Yahoo Groups. Somewhere among 3000 or 10000 posts that mostly say "me too" and that Yahoo displays in summary pages of 10 posts per page, is something useful or interesting. Think of the thrill of spending four hours paging through hundreds of pages of "me too" when finally somebody says something interesting.

So basically, I get two points out of this post:
1. Pretty white teenagers have inordinately frequent problems with Gardasil. (Hey, Faux, you paying attention?)
2. :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared:

Is there anything here that hasn't already been in the forty-eleven other Gardasil threads?

is what this is.

bad medical advice.

wait and find out what is making health girls sick or dead.

Do you object to finding out what is causing this vaccine to harm some people?

Would you object to making the vaccine safer?

Would you object to finding out if some people should never get this vaccine?

Ten months following the onset of her initial symptoms, hysterectomy with lymph node dissection was performed. She recovered and was discharged from the hospital.

Three months later, because of recurrence of abdominal pain, a pelvic examination and biopsy were performed, followed by radiotherapy. Within a few months she developed cough and shortness of breath, which were treated with chemotherapy (nitrogen mustard).

She rapidly lost weight (final weight only 36 kg), became comatose, and died at 33 years of age, 2 1/2 years after the onset of disease.

Who is this mystery patient?

The mystery patient whose illness is described above was the Argentinean, Eva (Evita) Duarte Perón, hated by the aristocracy, beloved by the poor and members of the Peronist party, who became Juan Perón's second wife. She died from aggressive, widespread cervical cancer in her early 30s.




Heather Burcham, the woman who made multiple impassioned appearances at the Capitol to argue for the importance of the HPV vaccine, lost her battle with cervical cancer Saturday. She died in Houston at age 31.

Amazing isn't it?