trouble with 'Cervical' in Scotland

http://www.scotsman.com/latestnews/Fears-over-reactions-to-cervical.5319871.jp


Fears over reactions to cervical cancer jab


MORE than 150 girls in Scotland have suffered adverse reactions after receiving the cervical cancer vaccine introduced last autumn, The Scotsman can reveal.

Campaigners are calling for the vaccination programme to be suspended, claiming there are unanswered questions about the long-term effectiveness and safety of Cervarix. They are concerned that official information refers to mild side-effects, when some girls have reported serious reactions to the jab.

The families of six girls in England are suing GlaxoSmithKline (GSK), the maker of Cervarix, after the girls suffered severe reactions resulting in partial paralysis, seizures and chronic fatigue. The Scotsman has learned two more have contacted the same solicitor after suffering severe painful swelling of joints.

The Scottish Government and GSK insist the number of adverse reactions experienced is in line with any mass vaccination programme. However, an investigation by The Scotsman has also discovered the guidance sent out on the £64 million vaccination programme was changed in several respects before being distributed to parents – after the intervention of a drug company.
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not good at all

environmental of a bad batch or if its the same percentage as elsewhere.

not minor. We've been arguing the safety of this fast tracked vaccine since it came out. IMO, the risk of taking it, is not worth the benefit it claims to have.

Now, before you all start bitching at me in regards to my opinion. I have researched this and written a paper on it, so I have come to an educated conclusion in regards to this particular vaccine.

Those of you who disagree, feel free to pump your daughters full of it. However, I don't care to hear your arguments.

Well how nice of you to post to a DISCUSSION board then. :eyes:

it was just a reply to the OP. So yeah, feel free to ignore my post.

Sid

I note that an answer has not been forthcoming.

was halted after just a few cases of Guillian-Barre. Guillian-Barre seems to be a built-in hazard of this current vac, and it's risk has been noted since the original trials.

I'm not anti-vac, I just don't trust the drug companies right now.



Doesn't sound like they were well informed before getting those shots.

the commercials mislead the public

But Congress and the FDA are bought and paid for by pharma.

Never be a beta test for a medicine unless you have no other choice.

Sometimes in the middle of a study it becomes SO OBVIOUS that a drug or treatment is working, that it becomes ethically imperative to make the treatment available to all. Gardasil's effectiveness against the varieties of HPV known to cause cervical cancer (among other maladies) was incredibly obvious - and widespread availability has only bolstered that fact.

One would have to wait several generations to prove its "worthiness" to be used as a medicine or vaccine. In the process as is, there are times that mistakes have been made and sometimes those results have been tragic.

On the plus side, more often than not, like true scientists do, they LEARN from those mistakes and try not repeat them.

I won't condemn out of hand the notion of caution in developing new medications, but at times, one gets the idea that the amount of caution that certain people apply to the development process crosses the border from caution into the realm of paralysis.

And such extreme caution can, and would, ultimately have more tragic results than any of the mistakes that might have gotten caught along the way.

One cannot rule out every possibility before a drug can be approved.

Can one imagine the internet at the time when penicillin was new?

"They rushed this drug to market and foisted it off on people who might not have even gotten an infection after surgical procedures and there are people who have had bad reactions and some even died!!!! Big Apothecary cares more about money than people! Just look what it did to the child of that woman who played Aunt Pitty Pat in Gone with the Wind! Thank god we have advocates like her telling the truth about these drugs!"

And while I agree that there is a certain amount of financial pressure to get a drug to market and should be balanced against the need public safety and the need for the drug itself, eventually the funding for research on a specific drug WILL dry up. There is simply no way to test every possible genetic, environmental, co-morbidity, and chemical interaction permutation and have a pharmaceutical reach the market.

What I do reject is this idea that people are sitting around in a room saying, "Hey! This shit will cause your hair to fall out and make you vomit up the soles of your shoes! Let's sell it as a treatment for cancer! We'll make billions!"

Sadly, the impression one would get from the extreme caution types, that is exactly what goes on.

n/t

Horseshit has a variety of beneficial uses, from fuel to fertilizer.

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