Obama says to provide health coverage to everyone, we need single payer

"I want to cover everybody. Now, the truth is that, unless you have a single-payer system, in which everybody is automatically covered, then you're probably not going to reach every single individual." - Barak Obama July 2009

I support covering everyone too.

You people who don't want to cover everyone and insist on having your own selfish way with some scam "public option" I say listen to the President and fall in line.

Hear That DFA?

Are you listening Move-On?

Will you support your president?

Or cling to a system that won't cover everyone?

Maybe we can use this hiatus to educate more people on the benefits of a single payer in all regards--ease of use, cost-effectiveness, etc. Lots of work to be done from the grassroots.

Hoping for more such honest talk. (not counting on it, but hoping)

Progressive causes, unless they don't. For instance, they never got on board the Stolen election, deficient machinery idea until late in the game. And so they were part and parcel of why Kerry lost his victory to Bush.

And if they do support a situation, just when it might come to fruition they back away.

And it is impossible to meet with the founders. Unless you are a personal friend.

Top down in authority, but bottom to top with solicitations for money. Boo on them!

Primarily because of their hypocrisy on The WAR.

some people would never buy insurance. You are not sticking to what he said last night. You are twisting his words for your purpose just as the right wingers do. You should raise hell with those who won't buy insurance or be for a mandate if there is no single payer.

when the puny public option fails to reign in costs and more and more folks can't afford their part of subsidized care. Add in Medicaid cuts on the poor and there will be a whole new group of scapegoats for those who love to place blame on those in lower classes. Those selfish insurance deadbeats, the "welfare queen" of the new millenium.

Well Said!
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If the plan is as stated by Obama and you don't have coverage it is your fault no one else's. If you can afford to cover yourself and you don't choose to you are a deadbeat.

As Obama said in his speech, these people do not cover themselves even though they can and show up at the emergency room expecting to be treated and they are but the cost is passed on to everyone else.

No one expects you to go without food or shelter to pay for insurance.

What you are saying is a canard!

The House bill and the HELP Senate committee bills look a lot like Romney Care.
They too subsidizes private insurance companies with tax money like Romney Care, and require people to buy from private insurance companies.
The CBO says the house bill and the Senate bill has no cost containment. So as costs rise, benefits will fall. Just like Romney Care.

I'm positive that Americans don't want Romney care though. If they did they would have elected Romney, right?

I heard that in MA some people pay the penalty rather than have coverage because it is cheaper to pay.

I don't know if this is the case in MA, but if there are people who can afford to pay for insurance and do not because they would rather have the money to spend on other things that are not necessities or near necessities they are free loading off of everyone else if they don't pay full cost of any treatment they may need. There just is no defending those types.

No one should have to pay full cost for care and no one should be permitted to pay nothing if they have the means to pay something.

suck up big money and bribe lawmakers.

They are the scum of the earth.

The Congressional Budget Office says no cost savings in either hr3200 or the help senate bill and no real public pool in either, CBO says that the house bill might have 10 million enrollees after ten years, a drop in the bucket.

Plus a trillion of new money spent to subsidize insurance companies. It's stupid if we let them screw us like that for a give away to the insurance mafia.

...be the beggining of the end for the health insurance industry.

Lets face it. Ask anyone in human resources about the shit they have to go through every couple of years to shop for a new plan and what those plans cost. Companies will be dropping their private insurance left and right because private insurance can't compete with an insurance option that actually pays it's claims and doesn't have loads of executive salaries to pay.

We will end up with a single payer system. Maybe not this year or not in 5 years or even in 10 years perhaps but a public option will be the end of private health insurance.

In this recession with such high unemployment, I don't think they could get a bill passed that instantly shuts down an industry and puts 10's of thousands of sleazebags out of work.

Health insurance companies are obsolete and they will go by way of the 8 track and the floppy disk, it will just take time to do that transition without too much of a shock to the system.

Change doesn't come quickly and single payer is a very bigggg change.

public option in it?

You of course realize that the CBO says the public option may have up to 10 million people in it by 2019. That's ten years from now. And 3.5% of the population. That would mean at that rate a third of the population would be in the public option in 100 years.

You think that will scare the insurance industry?

Have you checked out the stock prices of health insurance companies? They aren't scared. Investors aren't fleeing ahead of your predicted downward turn of the insurance industry because of the public option. Why do you suppose?

I can tell you why, but I want you to think about it and see if you can figure it out?

Also, think about why the insurance industry is participating in this process? You think they don't care if they lose their gravy train?

In Australia, everyone is automatically covered by Medicare, but people are free to purchase private health insurance as an alternative.

Those plans exist despite the fact that their public insurance plan is there. Why wouldn't it work here?

moderates are the enemy of anything good when it comes to healthcare in america.

And a rolling stone gathers no moss

but the roving bee gathers the honey.

Look before you leap

because he who hesitates is lost.


I'm in the groove.....

Now if he could actually implement it...

The battle over single-payer is in the House Energy & Commerce Committee (E&C). The committee was supposed to vote on Rep. Anthony Weiner's single-payer amendment on Monday, but chairman Henry Waxman keeps postponing the vote because it might pass - just like the Kucinich Amendment for a single-payer state option passed on July 17 by a shocking 25-19 bi-partisan majority.
http://www.democrats.com/
Lean Yes
Diana DeGette CO01 202-225-4431
Jane Harman CA36 202-225-8220
Christopher Murphy CT05 202-225-4476
Frank Pallone NJ06 202-225-4671 @FrankPallone
Bobby Rush IL01 202-225-4372
Today we're told the vote could be tomorrow ( Friday ). This week we asked our 600,000 supporters to call all 35 Democrats. Based on your calls, we identified 9 solid yes and 5 more lean yes:
http://www.democrats.com/single-payer-committee-whip

Can you call the 5 lean yes and convince them to become solid yes on Rep. Anthony Weiner's single-payer amendment in the Energy & Commerce Committee?

Won't Say / "Not Enought Votes"
Rick Boucher VA09 202-225-3861
Bruce Braley IA01 202-225-2911
G.K. Butterfield NC01 202-225-3101
Lois Capps CA23 202-225-3601
Kathy Castor FL11 202-225-3376
John Dingell MI15 202-225-4071
Charles Gonzalez TX20 202-225-3236
Jay Inslee WA01 202-225-6311 @RepInsleeNews
Doris Matsui CA05 202-225-7163
Jerry McNerney CA11 202-225-1947
John Sarbanes MD03 202-225-4016
Bart Stupak MI01 202-225-4735
Betty Sutton OH13 202-225-3401
Henry Waxman (Chair) CA30 202-225-3976
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