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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-12-09 10:24 PM Original message |
Va. teen suffers rare illness (GBS) after swine flu shot ~ CDC says "no clear link." |
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ccharles000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-12-09 10:27 PM Response to Original message |
1. how sad |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-12-09 10:33 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Thankfully he's expected to fully |
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BeatleBoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-12-09 10:28 PM Response to Original message |
2. And over 4,000 people have died in the U.S. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-12-09 10:33 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Not sure you can make that assertion? |
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BeatleBoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-12-09 10:34 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Link |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-12-09 10:38 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. That does not prove |
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BeatleBoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-12-09 10:49 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. I respect your personal decision and see your point. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-12-09 11:55 PM Response to Reply #9 |
15. That may be. |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 03:59 PM Response to Reply #6 |
58. You seem to be trying to have it both ways... |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 05:41 PM Response to Reply #58 |
97. I assume no such thing. |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 06:39 PM Response to Reply #97 |
108. I disagree that... |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 08:45 PM Response to Reply #108 |
112. When people die as a result of an illness |
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Chemisse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 09:01 PM Response to Reply #112 |
117. I completely agree with you Molly, about the extremism |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 12:29 AM Response to Reply #117 |
122. "It's rather like censorship. No discussion along those lines is tolerated - period." |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 06:29 AM Response to Reply #97 |
132. Vaccine odds |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 02:55 PM Response to Reply #132 |
137. Do you have some kind of link? |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 10:32 PM Response to Reply #137 |
141. Since your so lazy......... |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 12:20 AM Response to Reply #141 |
143. Lazy? This from the person who hasn't bothered to read the OP? |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 05:05 PM Response to Reply #143 |
145. Well, you said you doubted my numbers |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 11:09 PM Response to Reply #145 |
147. The burden of proof is yours. And you've failed once again. |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 03:52 PM Response to Reply #147 |
148. You can lead an anti-vaxxers to facts |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 01:41 PM Response to Reply #148 |
150. When you lead anyone to them facts you speak about |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 03:15 PM Response to Reply #150 |
152. My point proven |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 04:03 PM Response to Reply #152 |
153. Ah |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 06:52 PM Response to Reply #153 |
155. yep..... |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 07:58 PM Response to Reply #155 |
156. Nah, but thanks for kicking the |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 08:46 PM Response to Reply #156 |
159. Np, I hope it stays here to show |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 09:23 PM Response to Reply #159 |
160. You've presented nothing resembling fact. I asked you to back up your assertion |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-12-09 10:48 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. Les'see |
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BeatleBoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-12-09 11:01 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. Let's See. How many people have died from GBS versus H1N1? |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-12-09 11:06 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. And for those who won't even bother to read your link... |
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BeatleBoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-12-09 11:18 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. I got the shot because |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-12-09 11:35 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. I only butt-in when teh stupid shows up here. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 12:03 AM Response to Reply #14 |
18. So MSNBC is now teh stupid? |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 02:51 PM Response to Reply #18 |
28. And WHO is saying "no one is ever injured from any vaccine, ever"? |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 02:57 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. What some say is essentially what I noted. And, it is also suggested that we NEVER |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 10:46 PM Response to Reply #30 |
146. We think its stupid to discuss |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 01:49 PM Response to Reply #146 |
151. 1/700000 = the odds of getting struck by lightening. 1 in 1000 doses |
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Chemisse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 09:06 PM Response to Reply #14 |
118. That is exactly what I mean! |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 05:32 PM Response to Reply #8 |
94. Supposing even that we assume... |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 05:47 PM Response to Reply #94 |
99. Why not assume that we could actually prevent vaccine |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 06:12 PM Response to Reply #99 |
102. Actually that wouldn't be a bad idea... |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 06:26 PM Response to Reply #102 |
106. That's all I ask |
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Chemisse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 09:09 PM Response to Reply #99 |
119. The whole GB reaction - if it is valid |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-12-09 10:46 PM Response to Original message |
7. The OP left this out: |
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BeatleBoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-12-09 10:52 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. Thank you. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-12-09 11:58 PM Response to Reply #7 |
16. Very good point. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 12:00 AM Response to Reply #7 |
17. The "OP" can post only four paragraphs |
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Jim__ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 10:02 AM Response to Reply #7 |
21. A couple of notes. |
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ingac70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 12:09 AM Response to Original message |
19. No clear link my foot.... |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 12:14 AM Response to Reply #19 |
20. Shhh, the only time there is a legitimate concern, is if disease |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 11:26 AM Response to Reply #19 |
22. Please compare and contrast the vaccines from the 1970s with the vaccines today. |
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ingac70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 12:04 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. Well, in comparison, both could cause Guillain-Barre syndrome. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 12:47 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. Gee, that's convincing. |
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ingac70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 12:57 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. I don't know what you want from me.... |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 02:06 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. A little intellectual honesty. |
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ingac70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 02:12 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. That research is pretty honest. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 03:11 PM Response to Reply #27 |
32. Yeah, so you finally looked up one piece of information on the matter... |
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ingac70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 03:14 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. Yeah, I do.... |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 03:19 PM Response to Reply #33 |
36. In other words, you're choosing to make assumptions. |
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ingac70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 03:24 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. .... |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 03:26 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. Prove it. |
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ingac70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 03:27 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. I already did. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 03:28 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. That's one study among many. |
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ingac70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 03:32 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. I've been right on message the whole time. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 03:36 PM Response to Reply #41 |
44. You're on message all right. |
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ingac70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 03:41 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. From yourlink.... |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 03:46 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. Way to pull a line out of context. |
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ingac70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 03:47 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. .... |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 03:52 PM Response to Reply #50 |
54. You really don't get it, do you? |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 03:51 PM Response to Reply #48 |
53. The Mayo does say this - |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 03:54 PM Response to Reply #53 |
55. From reading from various sources today, I'd say that's an opinion that's not universal. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 04:11 PM Response to Reply #55 |
64. HuckleB, take a look at this. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 04:15 PM Response to Reply #64 |
68. Yeah. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 04:19 PM Response to Reply #68 |
72. Some feel they've |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 04:43 PM Response to Reply #72 |
86. If it was as simple as the bacteria, then perhaps they would have figured it out. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 05:44 PM Response to Reply #86 |
98. The Mayo said the bacteria is the most common cause. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 06:19 PM Response to Reply #98 |
105. Well, if that's what you want to go with, by all means, go with it. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 08:00 PM Response to Reply #105 |
111. The Mayo cites the CDC and others |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 06:30 PM Response to Reply #111 |
114. That does not mean that Mayo's conclusions are correct. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 12:25 AM Response to Reply #114 |
120. The CDC makes this claim. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 12:30 AM Response to Reply #120 |
123. I don't see the CDC making any such claim. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 12:38 AM Response to Reply #123 |
125. Then you didn't read my post #105 very carefully Huck. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 12:40 AM Response to Reply #125 |
126. Ah, yes, one little information piece, written by who knows... |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 12:42 AM Response to Reply #126 |
128. Oh c'mon. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 12:43 AM Response to Reply #128 |
130. Yeah, that's nice. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 01:01 AM Response to Reply #130 |
131. I have to say I disagree. I wish officials knew what caused the issue in 1976. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 11:14 AM Response to Reply #131 |
134. Again, if eggs were the issue, the research that's been done would have found the problem. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 02:52 PM Response to Reply #134 |
135. Do notify the CDC |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 03:18 PM Response to Reply #135 |
138. Is that really your response? |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 03:37 PM Response to Reply #138 |
139. How about this. I just contacted Medimune, who makes the nasal H1N1 |
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ingac70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 04:12 PM Response to Reply #53 |
65. A pasteurized egg is a dead egg. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 04:17 PM Response to Reply #65 |
71. Ahhh, |
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ingac70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 04:19 PM Response to Reply #71 |
73. Perhaps... |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 04:21 PM Response to Reply #73 |
74. They wont give a shit if |
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ingac70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 04:25 PM Response to Reply #74 |
77. I'll just do my best to avoid egg based vaccines.... |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 04:28 PM Response to Reply #77 |
80. I hope to see more synthetic vaccines |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 05:23 PM Response to Reply #33 |
89. Poor logic there. Here is more on gbs and campylobacter and other causes... |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 05:49 PM Response to Reply #89 |
100. An auto immune reaction could also explain why some develop GBS |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 02:52 PM Response to Reply #19 |
29. that was 1976 vaccine. this is a different one. Yes, they have changed vaccines since then |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 02:58 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. How have they changed the vaccine? |
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ingac70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 03:18 PM Response to Reply #31 |
35. It is a bacteria in chicken eggs (Campylobacter) that causes GBS.... |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 06:28 PM Response to Reply #31 |
113. For starters... |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 12:28 AM Response to Reply #113 |
121. The article you posted touts the safety of mercury in vaccines as well. |
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ingac70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 03:15 PM Response to Reply #29 |
34. They still use eggs to make it.... |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 03:33 PM Response to Reply #34 |
43. Interesting |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 03:38 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. I disagree. |
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ingac70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 03:46 PM Response to Reply #43 |
49. .... |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 03:56 PM Response to Reply #49 |
56. What is the conclusion of that single study? |
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ingac70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 04:00 PM Response to Reply #56 |
60. What happened to.... |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 04:06 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. Thanks for proving that your only point in being here is to play games. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 06:31 PM Response to Reply #34 |
115. Again, you make a big assumption about campylobacter, all by itself. |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 03:59 PM Response to Reply #19 |
59. '76 vaccine != '09 vaccine...nt |
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ingac70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 04:02 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. Not really... |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 04:13 PM Response to Reply #61 |
66. Are you suggesting chicken eggs cause GBS?... |
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ingac70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 04:16 PM Response to Reply #66 |
69. Campylobacter causes GBS... |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 05:16 PM Response to Reply #69 |
87. MANY things cause GBS, including cdiff and "wtf". |
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ingac70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 05:25 PM Response to Reply #87 |
90. ..... |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 05:29 PM Response to Reply #90 |
93. here... |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 05:51 PM Response to Reply #93 |
101. The Mayo indicates that the bacteria in question is the most common |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 05:27 PM Response to Reply #87 |
91. Exactly. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 04:07 PM Response to Reply #19 |
63. It's amazing how many people had a relative who got GBS in 1976. |
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ingac70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 04:22 PM Response to Reply #63 |
75. And how many people have told you that? |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 04:28 PM Response to Reply #75 |
81. You can make whatever assumptions you want to make. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 05:18 PM Response to Reply #63 |
88. It's amazing how many people were priestesses or shamens in past lives. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 05:28 PM Response to Reply #88 |
92. No doubt about it. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 05:32 PM Response to Reply #92 |
95. I did a past life regerssion once, many yrs back, got looked at funny when I came up with only |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 06:17 PM Response to Reply #95 |
104. Hmmm. |
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conscious evolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 08:09 PM Response to Reply #63 |
157. My father caught it |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 03:33 PM Response to Original message |
42. Don’t Blame Flu Shots for All Ills, Officials Say |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 03:45 PM Response to Reply #42 |
47. Would be nice if the same officials would actually investigate |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 03:50 PM Response to Reply #47 |
51. Should we investigate every illness that pops up? |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 04:15 PM Response to Reply #51 |
67. When people die, from like causes after a particular intervention, YES. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 04:16 PM Response to Reply #67 |
70. I really don't know what you want to be done. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 04:23 PM Response to Reply #70 |
76. As I've said |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 04:28 PM Response to Reply #76 |
82. Screening for the bacteria when? |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 04:33 PM Response to Reply #82 |
83. I don't much care |
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ingac70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 04:40 PM Response to Reply #83 |
84. It should be part of the quality control process. n/t |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 04:42 PM Response to Reply #83 |
85. So how do you know that it isn't already done? |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 05:34 PM Response to Reply #85 |
96. I can't find any indication that is is. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 06:15 PM Response to Reply #96 |
103. I can't see how a vaccine would be created without such quality controls. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 06:28 PM Response to Reply #103 |
107. I'll tell you what, I'll try to reach the manufacturer(s) |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 06:48 PM Response to Reply #107 |
109. Well, ok then. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 07:28 PM Response to Reply #109 |
110. You as well. |
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ingac70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 03:51 PM Response to Reply #47 |
52. They can't.... |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 03:58 PM Response to Reply #52 |
57. People do know the truth. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 04:26 PM Response to Reply #52 |
78. I'd be more likely to be vaccinated if they would take precautionary measures. |
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tiptoe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-13-09 04:26 PM Response to Reply #52 |
79. There's an apparent *additional* approach for protection against H1N1: |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 06:47 PM Response to Original message |
116. From before the trials began. This shows the differences in surveillance between 1976 and today. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 12:36 AM Response to Reply #116 |
124. Did you see this part? |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 12:41 AM Response to Reply #124 |
127. Yes. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 12:43 AM Response to Reply #127 |
129. As do I. And, I appreciate an honest look at the big vaccine picture. |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 07:30 AM Response to Reply #124 |
133. What really bothers me... |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 02:54 PM Response to Reply #133 |
136. What about the anti-vaccine framing? |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 05:43 PM Response to Reply #136 |
154. I don't usually use the term 'anti-vaccine' unless I am referring to a person or group that |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 08:38 PM Response to Reply #154 |
158. I've heard all the arguments for mass vaccination before. |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-21-09 03:50 AM Response to Reply #158 |
161. If they are made universally available and free... |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-21-09 03:55 PM Response to Reply #161 |
162. Over 90% of the US population is in compliance. |
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Christa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 04:53 PM Response to Original message |
140. I got GBS in 1976 from the swine flue vaccine |
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WillYourVoteBCounted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 11:37 PM Response to Reply #140 |
142. my friends dad got the swine flu shot back then |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 12:21 AM Response to Reply #140 |
144. Oh my, |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 09:27 PM Response to Original message |
149. WHO Update Re: Safety of Pandemic Vaccines |
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