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Elmore Furth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-24-10 07:02 AM
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Health insurers fighting paying 80% of their premiums in patient care
Considering the health insurance companies are awash in cash, their obsession over maximizing their cash is mystifying.



The legislative battle over the health care overhaul ended months ago, but it is hard to tell from the intense effort now under way by insurance companies to retool a critical provision.

The law requires health insurers to spend at least 80 cents out of every dollar they collect in premiums on the welfare of patients, a critical issue for the companies’ bottom lines.

But state regulators are only now deciding what precisely that means, as they draft the rules to enact the law. WellPoint, which operates Blue Cross plans in more than a dozen states, wants to include the cost of verifying the credentials of doctors in its networks. Insurance companies like Aetna argue that ferreting out fraud by identifying doctors performing unnecessary operations should count the same way as programs that keep people who have diabetes out of emergency rooms.

Some insurers even insist that typical business expenses — like sales commissions for insurance agents and taxes paid on investments — should not be considered part of insurance premiums, which would make it easier for them to meet the 80-cent minimum


For Insurers, Fight Is Now Over Details
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-24-10 07:08 AM
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1. Recommend
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burnsei sensei Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-24-10 07:15 AM
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2. Medicine for profit strikes again . . .
and of course they're shuffling the details.
That's where the damn devil is.
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-24-10 07:15 AM
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3. No one could have predicted that the industry and its lobbyists would attempt to water down
the regulations! No one!

Remember that the overhead of Medicare is approx 3%. The privates having between 15- 20% margin is more than enough to cover ancillary costs. But it's just never enough is it?
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bread_and_roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-24-10 08:06 AM
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7. LOL, right. And now we can spend the rest of our lives trying to guard our scraps
from the insurance vampires. Oh, thank you, health care "reform!"
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Oceansaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-24-10 07:39 AM
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4. K&R...n/t
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-24-10 07:52 AM
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5. why do we even have to deal with these for-profit parasites??

uniquely american way, my ass.

it's just fucking barbaric.
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area51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-10 06:46 AM
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9. +1
Each day, 273 people die due to lack of health care in the U.S.

We need single-payer health care, not a welfare bailout for the serial-killer insurance agencies.


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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-24-10 07:53 AM
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6. These are legitimate questions. It's easy to say...
"You have to spend more on patient care" but not so easy to specify just how to do that.

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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-10 12:19 AM
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8. Now you know why regulation of insurance by MLR mandates has abjectly failed--
--in the 15 states where it has been tried so far.
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