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phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 02:34 PM
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Two legged goats and developmental variation
Reading the entire post is very beneficial, but here's what he's building up to...

Pelvic musculature of a normal (A) and two-legged (B) goat. The gluteus muscle ("gt") has a long anterior extension, which has been reinforced anteriorly by novel tendons ("t"). These are new anatomical structures that were generated in the absence of any direct genetic specification.



The pelvic bones responded to the unusual stresses imposed on them with changes in shape, as well. To the left is the pelvic skeleton of a normal (A) and two-legged (B) goat ("i"=ischium). Slijper noted that the dorsoventral flattening and elongation of the ischium resembled the forms seen in kangaroos, a naturally bipedal animal.



These are not genetic changes -- the goat was ordinary domestic stock, and presumably had perfectly ordinary genes that, under normal circumstances, would have generated more typically goatish morphology. These are instead the indirect consequences of a plastic phenotype, responding to a radical change in its environment.

(...)

I think there are several important messages here. One is that genes are not "for" some feature; the absence of forelimbs did not conjure a gene "for" gluteal tendons into existence. Rather, cellular patterns of gene expression are regulated in response to the environment, and in turn modulate the environment of other cells and tissues. We have been conditioned by years of good (but selective) results in genetics and molecular biology to view gene expression as an end result. It is not. In development, gene expression is part of a process that produces an end result in collaboration with multiple other factors.

http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2006/01/two_legged_goats_and_developme.php#more


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mainegreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 02:46 PM
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1. Ain't evolution something?
:7
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phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 02:54 PM
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4. This kind of developmental adaptation has big implications for...
our understanding of how fast certain kinds of evolution can occur, and where the variation *really* comes from. Clearly, it also has implications for answering questions of the "irreducible complexity" variety. Here we have the appearance of entirely new muscular-skeletal features, with *no* genetic mutation required.

He mentions kangaroos. In light of this information, it's suddenly possible to conceptualize major skeletal and muscular adaptations for "free," genetically speaking. An animal with a mutation for small front legs might acquire most(?) of it's adaptation in the hind-legs simply in response to it's development and lifestyle. Shit, it's almost Lamarckian.
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ewoden Donating Member (634 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 02:50 PM
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2. That's nothing!!
The American body politic has been creating half-assed politicians for decades!
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 02:51 PM
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3. Pretty amazing.
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 11:19 PM
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5. Now, can we breed eight-legged chickens?
Mmmmm....drumsticks.
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