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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 01:25 AM
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Oregon cave yields evidence of the earliest Americans yet
Oregon cave yields evidence of the earliest Americans yet
Human DNA dated to 14,300 years ago

Fossilized excrement found in an Oregon cave has given scientists the clearest evidence to date that humans roamed the New World at least 1,000 years earlier than previously believed.
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The prehistoric feces, deposited in a cave some 14,300 years ago, contain DNA from the forebears of modern-day Native Americans, according to the research.

The discovery reported yesterday by the journal Science added fresh weight to emerging theories that Stone Age people from Asia somehow bypassed ice sheets sealing off North America before 11,000 BC.

Nearly all scholars agree that humans were present by then, but until recently few archeologists accepted that an earlier arrival was even possible because of the formidable ice barriers. So the Oregon discovery and work at other sites may help solve one of archeology's most enduring mysteries - how and when did humans reach the Americas?

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/04/04/oregon_cave_yields_evidence_of_the_earliest_americans_yet/
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Spinzonner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 01:46 AM
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1. No Shit !

Er, I guess Yes, Shit.

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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 02:03 AM
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2. My (unsupported) theory -
Three waves - 1st @20,000 BCE, Siberian land bridge. 2nd @ 14,000 BCE, Siberian land bridge. 3rd, @ 9,000BCE, across N Atlantic, roughly same route as the Vikings 10,000 years later.

There are distict physiological differences between the Native Americans of the east - from the Mississippi to the East Coast - and those of the west and South America. There are indiginous people in the Andes that would not look out of place in Mongolia. And Iraquoi who could pass for Egyptians.

Pre-history is likely far more complex than most credit it to be.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 04:14 AM
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3. Eh, land bridge.
Edited on Fri Apr-04-08 04:15 AM by aquart
Maybe it's because my feet hurt, but I don't believe in no steenkeen land bridge.

In 2000 bc, people from Asia were taking the Grand Tour of the Americas on the Kamchatka current. If that didn't exist 20,000 years ago, maybe another one did. The Australians used boats. Can't see one damn reason why our earliest immigrants wouldn't.

People in the Americas were very oriented to the heavens. Not something you really need unless you're at sea and don't have landmarks.
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Bobbieo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 05:56 AM
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4. The Cocopah of Southern AZ and Mexicoo, still strongly
resemble peoples from the South Pacific areas.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 11:29 PM
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5. Resemblance is lovely but do we have DNA?
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