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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 04:58 PM
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How the Republican ticket incorrectly referred to science on the campaign trail
Scientific American Magazine - January 5, 2009

How the Republican ticket incorrectly referred to science on the campaign trail

By Steve Mirsky

You’re not supposed to kick a guy when he’s down.

Of course, in reality, when he’s down is the perfect time to kick him. He’s closer to your feet, for one thing. But the particular kicking I have in mind should be thought of as tough love. These kicks at the freshly defeated McCain-Palin ticket, as I write in early November, are an attempt to knock some sense back into the group of my fellow Americans who seem determined to ignore or even denigrate valuable scientific research because it’s something outside the realm of Joe the Plumber’s daily activities.

So let’s review. During the presidential campaign, Senator John McCain repeatedly attacked a specific bit of federal funding to study bear DNA. “You know, we spent $3 million to study the DNA of bears in Montana. I don’t know if that was a criminal issue or a paternal issue,” he said in his first debate with Senator Barack Obama. (That attempt at humor went over like an iridium balloon, which is denser than a lead balloon.) As an article published in February on the Scientific American Web site showed, the money (actually closer to $5 million since 2003) is paying for an accurate population count of grizzlies living on the eight million acres of the Northern Continental Divide Ecosystem.

Says biologist Richard Mace of Montana Fish, Wildlife & Parks, “We have a federal law called the Endangered Species Act, and the federal government is supposed to help identify and conserve threatened species.” The first step to protect endangered grizzlies is to know how many there are. A reliable—and safe—way to do that is to set up barbed wire stations that grab fur as a grizzly wanders by. The researchers retrieve the fur and analyze the DNA to count individuals. Some bear haters, such as comic commentator Stephen Colbert, may question the need to save the grizzlies in the first place. But unless the Endangered Species Act is changed, federal law requires this expenditure. Strike one.

Read the rest http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=chastising-the-cherry-picking">here
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 06:28 PM
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1. K&R for rationalism. nt
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amyrose2712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 07:41 PM
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2. A little late, no?
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 08:31 PM
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5. No.
Trust me. They were all over it when it was going down. This is just a review.
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amyrose2712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 06:03 PM
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12. Cool. Thanx.
Too bad the M$M wasn't.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 07:46 PM
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3. Actually a lead baloon will fly.
They didn't test a iridium baloon.

Thanks Mythbusters. :)
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 08:22 PM
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4. Palin's attack of genetic fruit fly research and then
talking about Autism and special need students in the same speech was atrocious
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 12:13 PM
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10. Augh! Those were in the same speech? (nt)
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 09:27 PM
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6. That "overhead projector" thing pissed me off
It was a deliberate attempt to cash in on ignorance to score political points at the expense of one of the greatest learning tools - a planetarium.
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 09:30 PM
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7. I could maybe give him a pass the first time
chalking it up to ignorance. But he kept on using it even after he knew better.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 10:44 PM
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8. I'm not even willing to go that far
When a presidential candidate crafts one of these "gotcha" moments, it's usually researched to death.

He knew he was misleading people.
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Jim__ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 08:45 AM
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9. McCain and Palin were appealing to ignorance.
It's great that Scientific American pointed out the idiocy of their appeal. I don't remember the MSM pointing out the ignorance of their appeal, and my belief is that most people who heard these statements from McCain and Palin accepted them as valid. As long as most of our media let this idiocy from candidates go unchallenged, these types of appeals will win votes from a largely uninformed public. I know McCain and Palin lost, but it wasn't over this issue, and future campaigns will continue to win votes using unchallenged appeals to ignorance.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 01:38 PM
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11. Iridium is denser and much more costly than lead.
McCain was similarly the denser and costlier candidate.
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 07:11 PM
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13. Yet we wonder why the Republics are trying to murder education.
Can't have the rabble calling them on their rubbish.
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