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n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 11:28 AM
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Betelgeuse mysteriously shrinking
By Robert Sanders, Media Relations | 09 June 2009


Betelgeuse, a star so large its shape can be seen through the Hubble Space Telescope.




BERKELEY — The red supergiant star Betelgeuse, the bright reddish star in the constellation Orion, has steadily shrunk over the past 15 years, according to University of California, Berkeley, researchers.

Long-term monitoring by UC Berkeley's Infrared Spatial Interferometer (ISI) on the top of Mt. Wilson in Southern California shows that Betelgeuse (bet' el juz), which is so big that in our solar system it would reach to the orbit of Jupiter, has shrunk in diameter by more than 15 percent since 1993.

Since Betelgeuse's radius is about five astronomical units, or five times the radius of Earth's orbit, that means the star's radius has shrunk by a distance equal to the orbit of Venus.

"To see this change is very striking," said Charles Townes, a UC Berkeley professor emeritus of physics who won the 1964 Nobel Prize in Physics for inventing the laser and the maser, a microwave laser. "We will be watching it carefully over the next few years to see if it will keep contracting or will go back up in size."

more:

http://www.berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/2009/06/09_betelim.shtml

Of course, Faux "news" sez "Nearby Star May Be Getting Ready to Explode" !!!!!!

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,525695,00.html
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T Wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 11:30 AM
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1. What does Michael Keaton say about this? Actually, this IS pretty dramatic as far as
cosmic/celestial events go.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 11:33 AM
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2. That movie was such a disappointment
My friends raved about it. I watched the whole thing waiting for it to get funny.
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T Wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 11:56 AM
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4. Pretty much agree. Though Geena Davis has always been one of my faves. Did love
Sylvia Sydney (afterlife counselor).
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 11:42 AM
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3. IT'S SHRINKING! IT'S SHRINKING!
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MUAD_DIB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 12:11 PM
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5. Easy there, Heywood.
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friendly_iconoclast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 04:27 PM
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11. Hal and Dave will get us out of the way, don't worry!
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timeforpeace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 12:31 PM
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6. How long does light from there take to get here?
They might be seeing something that happened a long time ago.
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 12:51 PM
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7. 520 years
From Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betelgeuse

It is likely that Betelgeuse will become a supernova. Considering its size and age of 8.5 million years – old for its size class – it may explode within the next thousand years—if it hasn't already. Since its rotational axis is not toward the Earth, Betelgeuse's supernova would not cause a gamma ray burst in the direction of Earth large enough to damage its ecosystem even from a relatively close proximity of 520 light years.

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Reported on June 9, 2009, the star has shrunk 15% in the last 15 years. This means the average speed in which the radius of the star is shrinking, over the last 15 years is approximately 470-490 miles per hour. The rate that it has been decreasing in size has accelerated.


(Emphasis mine)
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phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 01:48 PM
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8. A supernova at that close range would be very cool.
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 03:42 PM
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9. We'd certainly get a chance to check a lot of theory about star life-cycle, wouldn't we?
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friendly_iconoclast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 04:25 PM
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10. We'd get to observe the behavior of every nutcase on Earth going off the deep end
Think Hale-Bopp, multiplied many, many times...
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 04:30 PM
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12. Hey, if they'd all castrate themselves it might be a watershed event for the human race!
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 08:15 PM
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13. Win for the rest of us! (nt)
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-12-09 01:33 AM
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14. Why am I thinking of hairdressers and telephone cleaners?
:P
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-12-09 11:56 PM
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15. Dying massive stars often shift back and forth being Red and Blue Supergiants
the size of supergiants can change a lot over time, contracting into a Blue Supergiant and expanding back into a red one again.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 12:00 AM
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16. After she blows, she will leave a nebula behind
with a neutron star at its center. The nebula will be visible to the naked eye. The last super nova visible to the naked eye left us the Crab Nebula:



M1: The Crab Nebula from Hubble

Image Credit: NASA, ESA, J. Hester, A. Loll (ASU); Acknowledgement: Davide De Martin (Skyfactory)

Explanation: This is the mess that is left when a star explodes. The Crab Nebula, the result of a supernova seen in 1054 AD, is filled with mysterious filaments. The filaments are not only tremendously complex, but appear to have less mass than expelled in the original supernova and a higher speed than expected from a free explosion. The above image, taken by the Hubble Space Telescope, is presented in three colors chosen for scientific interest. The Crab Nebula spans about 10 light-years. In the nebula's very center lies a pulsar: a neutron star as massive as the Sun but with only the size of a small town. The Crab Pulsar rotates about 30 times each second.

http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap080217.html
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Thor_MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 07:48 AM
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17. Maybe it was just in the pool?
Cold water can have that effect...
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