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laconicsax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 03:10 PM
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How Flowers Conqured the World
http://news.bbc.co.uk/earth/hi/earth_news/newsid_8143000/8143095.stm
The great explosion in flowering plants during the Cretaceous Period is one of the great enigmas of evolution.

Charles Darwin had no explanation, calling it an "abominable mystery".

But now scientists think they have solved the riddle of how flowers came to dominate the conifers and ferns that preceded them.

The flowers' secret, they say, was to exploit a change in soil fertility, and create a feedback loop that allowed new flowers to feed off dead ones.

...

Initially, gymnosperms flourished in poor soils. Such plants have longer-lived leaves which are capable of squeezing more nutrients out of the ground, but the litter they create tends not to decompose very fast. So while gymnosperms benefit from poor soils, they also do little to improve soil quality.

But then came some subtle changes in soil fertility. Angiosperms started colonising more fertile soils, gaining a foothold.

These early flowering plants then began changing the ecology of the soil. As they perished, they create a greater turnover in litter that replenished the soil, allowing yet more flowers to grow.

"From that time a positive feedback developed, where an increase in angiosperm dominance led to an increase in soil fertility and an increase in soil fertility led to a further accelerated expansion of the angiosperms," says Berendse.
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appal_jack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 03:15 PM
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1. Gaia in action
The Gaia hypothesis, at its core, states that life creates the conditions for life. Here is some good evidence of it in action.

k&r

-app

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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 04:19 PM
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8. Just like the oxygen in the air is a result of the
photosynthesizing of algae and plants.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 03:17 PM
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2. The plant world fascinates me
I have a mint colony that I've been trying to control for 8 years, it's a futile effort. The mint lives and lives and lives. At least it's pretty.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 03:33 PM
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3. Want some comfrey?
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 03:41 PM
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5. My mint appeared in my garden out of nowhere.
How does it get there?
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 03:51 PM
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6. Birds and wind probably
My problem started with a three seeds in a small pot. The mint eventually migrated into my garden via seed, established deep roots that I chopped up with a shovel at the end of the season. Each of those tiny root stubs started a new plant the next year. By then it was way out of control. I spent this year digging in the soil with my hands for buried roots, but it still came back strong as ever.

I really shouldn't complain, it's great in a cup of tea and fun to do battle with. :)
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 04:09 PM
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7. So the birds eat the mint and then crap it out all over?
Is that the bird thing?
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 04:25 PM
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9. That's what I've heard, although I think it's usually undigested fruit seeds.
The seed pods are very light and the seeds are extremely small, I'm sure some get blown around in the wind.
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slay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 06:57 PM
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12. I highly recommend David Attenborough's BBC - The Private Life of Plants
Doesn't look like it was ever released here in the US, but you can find some links further down this page I've linked to - it's absolutely amazing!

http://www.mytvblog.org/?p=320
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 03:40 PM
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4. Plants with plans! nt
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WheelWalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 05:08 PM
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10. Plants are people, too.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 06:10 PM
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11. As another poster said, Gaia in action. The spread of grasslands was a similar process.
Edited on Sun Jul-12-09 06:15 PM by Odin2005
Grasslands encouraged intense, fast-burning fires that spared the grasses but killed young woody plants. as the climate dried out, cooled, and CO2 levels dropped over the past 30 million years the grasses spread like, well, wildfire. Many grasses developed ways to use CO2 more efficiently, and as CO2 levels dropped to below 1,000ppm and plants had to increasingly keep their stomata open to get CO2, losing more water in the process, giving the more efficient grasses an edge in hot, dry climates.

Interesting, this drop in CO2 levels created the modern rainforest biome, the increased water loss from the stomata lead to increased humidity in the air above equatorial forests, creating a regime of self-sustaining rainfall. And thus the true rainforests returned for the first time since the Late Carboniferous/Early Permian, the last time CO2 levels were low like now (and, like now, was a time of ice ages).
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 08:34 PM
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13. So Republicans are like gymnosperms and Democrats like angiosperms?
Edited on Sun Jul-12-09 08:36 PM by starroute
Republicans seem to thrive in hostile environments but also do little to improve those environments. Democrats, on the other hand, change the ecology in a way that enables everything around them to flourish.

So when do we get to take over the world?

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Tumbulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 12:21 AM
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14. Fantastic, and yes when?! (nt)
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gtar100 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 08:00 PM
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15. I really like that analogy.
:D
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