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n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-03-09 09:09 AM
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Dark energy may disguise shape of universe
03 August 2009 by Pedro Ferreira



WE LIVE in a special time. For the past two decades, most of my colleagues and I have been working under the assumption that we can know everything about the universe. We know the amount of matter and energy it contains. We know its shape is flat. We can trace its history from the earliest moments after the big bang and we can even predict its fate. Or at least we thought we could.

Why were we so confident? Exquisite measurements of the radiation left over from the big bang led us to believe that we could work out the curvature of the universe to within a few per cent. In doing so, we have determined how much energy the universe contains and that most of it is in an exotic form called dark energy, which is driving the expansion of space.

However, recent discoveries have left me wondering if these claims were premature. As we learn more about dark energy and its effect on the expansion of space and time, we find that dark energy and the shape, or geometry, of the universe are worryingly intertwined.

By changing our assumptions about dark energy we can radically modify our constraints on the shape of the universe. Equally, without a much more precise measurement of the geometry, it is impossible to determine the nature and evolution of dark energy. Our picture of the universe has, to some extent, been blown wide open again.

more:

http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20327191.600-dark-energy-may-disguise-shape-of-universe.html

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newfie11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-03-09 09:12 AM
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1. fascinating
thanks for posting
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-03-09 09:12 AM
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2. The same damned thing happened at the end of the 19th century.
They KNEW everything about physics and the universe, with only a few unanswered questions and measurements to be dealt with.

Enter stage right: Special relativity. Quanta. General Relativity.
And POOOF goes the old system.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-03-09 10:44 AM
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4. lol - seems to happen a lot. nt
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-03-09 07:37 PM
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8. only when we mostly bags of water think we have it all figured out.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-03-09 08:32 PM
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9. IOW - always. Such clever bags of mostly water, the most clever bags of mostly water EVER! :) nt
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agent46 Donating Member (424 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-03-09 10:01 AM
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3. Certainty...
The hobgoblin of immature science.
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-03-09 11:43 AM
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5. Love it!
The mystery deepens and there's always more to learn.

As Einstein said, "The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as good as dead: his eyes are closed."

May the learning never end.

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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-03-09 01:04 PM
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6. For a moment, upon reading the ehader, I thought this was
About Dick Cheney's misdeeds.


Much more interesting, this, and not as scary.
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jimlup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-03-09 05:57 PM
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7. Yeah, I'm a physicist by education and ...
I think we know very little about Cosmology at the moment. The whole accelerating explansion thing has really thrown a wrench in the works.

I think it is really cool that we don't know! That leaves lots of room for fun speculation.
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_dynamicdems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-03-09 11:00 PM
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10. Really interesting. Thanks for posting.
:kick:
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