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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 01:18 PM
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Cassini Finds Organic Material on Titan
http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/tech/2005/apr/26/042601998.html

A close flyby of Saturn's big moon Titan by the international Cassini spacecraft revealed an upper atmosphere brimming with complex organic material, a finding that could hold clues to how life arose on Earth, scientists said Monday.

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Titan's atmosphere is mainly made up of nitrogen and methane, the simplest type of hydrocarbon. But scientists were surprised to find complex organic material in the latest flyby. Because Titan is extremely cold - about minus 290 degrees - scientists expected the organic material to condense and rain down to the surface.

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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 01:36 PM
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1. Very cool. (No pun intended!) Thanks for posting.
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Imperialism Inc. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 11:12 PM
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2. NASA press release.
This is a very interesting discovery. Thanks for posting it. The NASA site has the press release all the mainstream stories are based on.


http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/news/press-release-details.cfm?newsID=561

During its closest flyby of Saturn's moon Titan on April 16, the Cassini spacecraft came within 1,027 kilometers (638 miles) of the moon's surface and found that the outer layer of the thick, hazy atmosphere is brimming with complex hydrocarbons.

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Cassini's ion and neutral mass spectrometer detects charged and neutral particles in the atmosphere. It provides scientists with valuable information from which to infer the structure, dynamics and history of Titan's atmosphere. Complex mixtures of hydrocarbons and carbon- nitrogen compounds were seen throughout the range of masses measured by the Cassini ion and neutral mass spectrometer instrument. "We are beginning to appreciate the role of the upper atmosphere in the complex carbon cycle that occurs on Titan," said Dr. Hunter Waite, principal investigator of the Cassini ion and neutral mass spectrometer and professor at the University of Michigan, Ann Arbor. "Ultimately, this information from the Saturn system will help us determine the origins of organic matter within the entire solar system."

Hydrocarbons containing as many as seven carbon atoms were observed, as well as nitrogen- containing hydrocarbons (nitriles). Titan's atmosphere is composed primarily of nitrogen, followed by methane, the simplest hydrocarbon. The nitrogen and methane are expected to form complex hydrocarbons in a process induced by sunlight or energetic particles from Saturn's magnetosphere. However, it is surprising to find the plethora of complex hydrocarbon molecules in the upper reaches of the atmosphere. Titan is very cold, and complex hydrocarbons would be expected to condense and rain down to the surface.

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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 01:35 PM
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3. I realize the chances of abiotic oil originating on Earth is slim to none
But I was wondering if someone could please explain to me, in very simple terms that even I could understand, how it is that complex hydrocarbons can be created on Titan, but not on Earth, in the absence of life?

Thanks!
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aeolian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 02:24 PM
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4. Well, the article does not really explain what they mean by "complex."
Edited on Thu Apr-28-05 02:29 PM by aeolian
They only mention that Methane is the simplest. More complex hydorcarbons like ethane or propane -- still quite simple molecuels -- could also occur naturally quite easily. Additionally, amino acids, sugars, and small proteins have been observed to form naturally in laboratory experiments designed to simulate the environment of primitive earth.

So simple organic molecuels can occur naturally. In broad terms, "organic" just means that the molecule has carbon in it. Gasoline is organic. And I remember a while back some astronomer calculated the amount of ethly alcohol (the drinkin' kind) in some nebula (I think it was millions of liters).

EDIT: after reading the second reply, 'twould seem that some fairly large hydrocarbons were found! cool!
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 02:35 PM
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5. Thanks. Can we use abiotic hydrocarbons originating on Earth?
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 10:17 PM
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6. Well, no, actually.
All of that material was consumed by life long ago.

And if it is still released by the planet at some tiny rate, it can be proven that this rate is so small as to be of zero practical use.
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