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NJCher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 09:06 AM
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'Sarcasm' brain areas discovered
Edited on Tue May-24-05 09:09 AM by NJCher
Or why we need the :sarcasm: icon:

'Sarcasm' brain areas discovered

Scientists say they have located the parts of the brain that comprehend sarcasm - honestly.

By comparing healthy people and those with damage to different parts of the brain, they found the front of the brain was a key to understanding irony.

Damage to any of three different areas could render individuals unable to understand sarcastic comments.

The Israeli team from Haifa University told Neuropsychology how their findings might help to explain autism features.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4566319.stm



Cher

p.s. I heard the interview on the BBC and there was quite a discussion on how sarcasm is used extensively in the UK but not so much in the U.S. Yes, it is used in the major urban areas, but an American professor living in England said that sarcasm would be misinterpreted or misunderstood in the South and the Midwest. It would be interpreted as "aggressive."
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 09:08 AM
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1. Oh yeah, that will be a BIG help
Pssssh!
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 09:12 AM
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2. So, what part of the brain thinks up and uses irony
...against others?
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jayctravis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 10:48 PM
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26. Are sarcasm and irony related?
In both cases the desired inference is the complete opposite of what's on the surface.

In spoken language it can be verified with the tone of voice. Written sarcasm, or satire, can use hyperbole.

It's why the smiley has become so popular. A basic smiley indicates that the coversant is joking when it may not be clear from context.
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 09:14 AM
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3. Sarcasm
"Those most easily offended by irony and sarcasm are those least likely to understand it.'
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 09:19 AM
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7. so if this item
were posted @ the site who shall not be named, they wouldn't understand it.


At long last, the rethug brain is explained.
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Wright Patman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 09:17 AM
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4. Sarcasm is generally NOT understood
at all in the South or at least my part of it.

Sometimes people are so stupid they don't even realize they've been insulted. The most dangerous Southern male is one who is just savvy enough to realize he has been insulted on some level, but does not have the wits about him to engage in verbal repartee. That's when the violence ensues.
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FlaGranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 09:18 AM
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5. Interesting.
My grandson is diagnosed with mild autism, but he doesn't seem to have a problem with understanding sarcasm, at least face to face. Written sarcasm might be a bit more difficult. We come from a "sarcastic" family though, so he may have extra experience in learning about it. We use sarcasm in a more gentle, joking way, and he does seem to get it.
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AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 09:18 AM
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6. That still doesn't explain......
Edited on Tue May-24-05 09:21 AM by AnneD
how GOP brains are injured en utero and what can be done to prevent it or rehabilitate them once the damage has been done. A moran is a terrible thing to waste.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 09:23 AM
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9. Retroactive abortion in the most extreme cases
The congressman in Alabama who's all upset about Bill Maher comes to mind.
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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 09:23 AM
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8. Right next to it is the "snarky area".
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 09:23 AM
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10. Conservative students at the university I went to could not understand me
At 18, I had this sarcastic way of expressing myself. I learned it from my teachers. Moving from a city where labor history was written to Indiana was quite a shock. Oh, to have those years over again.
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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 09:34 AM
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12. I've noticed that too. that many people don't get it

I was raised with 2 sarcastic great aunts and a sarcastic mother. a most humorous and truth telling time.

I was once in a group of people where there was only one other sarcastic person. when he would say something sarcastic I would laugh and the others would just look at us and go on as if.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 09:46 AM
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16. Mom used to buy us Mad Magazine so all the boys could read it
Actually, she didn't want one of my brothers buying it and keeping it from the others to tease us. But she used to say, "you will learn more reading Mad Magazine than I could ever teach you".
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Zookeeper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 11:01 AM
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24. There is supposed to be a link between...
a well-developed sense of humor and intelligence.

I started reading Mad in the 3rd grade (pretty unusual for a girl at that time) and I'm sure that it helped me see the world in a more critical way. My kids have a subscription to it now.
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ozymandius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 09:24 AM
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11. That explains the huge lump in the center of my forehead.
It may also explain why so many people smack me in the head.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 09:38 AM
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13. Why don't these guys investigate something important?
Edited on Tue May-24-05 09:39 AM by Teaser
like Paris Hilton's ass.
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 09:42 AM
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14. He thinks southernors don't comprehend sarcasm?
With our Scots, Irish, English bloodlines? Well, bless his heart. :)
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ChickMagic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 10:06 AM
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18. No kidding
It's the sun - it dun fried us up. We southern girls always get away with being sarcastic with our putdowns. I like to call it the "Nice Nasties".
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 10:40 AM
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21. Yes, able to draw blood at fifty paces with a smile.
I'll have to remember "Nice Nasties". :)
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-05 08:32 AM
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27. My wife (a native North Carolinian) has told me all about that...
and the importance of "Bless <his, her, their> heart" as a neutralizing phrase for just about anything nasty you want to fling. :)
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 09:43 AM
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15. It's next to the sardonic area of the brain, turn left at the facetious...
cortex...

etc.
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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 10:39 AM
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20. LOL
nt
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central scrutinizer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 10:05 AM
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17. other research results:
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 10:21 AM
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19. Case in point
Sarcasm node thread is locked and moved from LBN to Science Forum.

Study on "delayed male orgasms" remains in LATEST BREAKING NEWS!


:sarcasm:
:evilgrin:
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AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 10:43 AM
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22. I really am not interested
in Tom's latest efforts to screw over the BOR, DOI, or the Constitution.
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 10:43 AM
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23. lol
Wouldn't want knowledge to "shrivel on the vine", now would we? :evilgrin:
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Lexingtonian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 07:03 PM
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25. has anyone found the gullibility brain area?

yes, I know what you're going to say- and give it your best shot :D
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