God save us from these insufferable fools

By BLAKE AUED - blake.aued@onlineathens.com
Published Wednesday, February 23, 2011

LEXINGTON - U.S. Rep. Paul Broun plans to use his new position as a House subcommittee chairman to investigate climate change and the Environmental Protection Agency, he said Tuesday.

At the same time as Broun was speaking to constituents at a town hall meeting in Oglethorpe County, fishermen, conservationists, ecologists and environmental activists were meeting at the University of Georgia Odum School of Ecology to promote the idea of manmade climate change and talk about how to reverse the trend.

Broun, who became chairman of the Science, Space and Technology Committee's subcommittee on investigation and oversight when Republicans took control of the House last month, said he plans to use hearings to show that manmade climate change is not settled science.

"We're going to get all voices heard about the science of climate," Broun said. "Right now the (Obama) administration turns a blind ear and eye to opposing views."

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The denizens of the left are striving to block science and development on GE crops to resist the effects of climate change.

Fools all.

And if monsanto didn't go to ridiculous efforts to force people
To use their seeds - who would care?

Great photo. :thumbsup:

The people who frequent this board are not stupid enough to believe that Monsanto is the slightest bit interested in crops that "resist the effects of climate change."

Monsanto is interested in maximizing their own profits, by means foul and fair, and if "climate change" can be worked into their propaganda they'll probably do that, but if you are interested in trying to make people believe that Monsanto gives a flying shit about the general welfare of mankind, you are on the wrong message board.

The "denizens of the left" on this board have already read about the farmers in India committing suicide by the hundreds because of their debts to Monsanto, and we've read about the exorbitant fines against Midwest farmers (and their forced pledges of silence) who unknowingly had Monsanto genes drift into their fields, and we've read about Monsanto trying to patent ages-old corn stolen from farmers in Mexico.

If you want to lead cheers for Monsanto, you'd probably get a more rewarding response from a less educated crowd somewhere else.

And the gnashing of teeth at the mention of GMO or GE crops is just plain ignorance.

If you have a problem with Monsanto, make it about Monsanto, NOT about GMO crops and the benefits they bring to the earth.

How about Golden Rice, a proven safe food, developed (NOT BY MONSANTO) to provide important beta-carotine to millions of people around the world who are malnourished?

Is that good enough for you?

A food produced with public dollars and has no profit for ANYONE is being help up by anti-science, environmentalist extremists for no good reason.

But if you want to talk about strict benefits of GM crops, let's talk about producing more food with fewer acres and less chemicals to produce food for the hungry on this earth.

Let's talk about how GE crops have NEVER been proven unsafe for human consumption, and the opinion of the anti-science crowd is "prove they ARE safe."

Let's talk about the billions in research done by public institutions to develop safe GE crops, only to be held up in approval by zealots who cling to ignorance.

If you want to talk, I've got facts and research. You have an IDEA that GMO's are unsafe and no actual proof. Sounds like a position someone ont he right would cling to if you ask me.

provide links to justify your claims regardless.

http://www.councilforresponsiblegenetics.org/GeneWatch/GeneWatchPage.aspx?pageId=249

'The International Assessment of Agricultural Knowledge, Science, and Technology for Development (IAASTD),8 which was written by more than 400 scientists and signed by nearly 60 governments around the world, says that industrial agriculture has degraded our natural resources and threatens the world's food, water, and energy security. The report, sponsored by the United Nations, the World Health Organization, and the World Bank, continues by stating that industrial agriculture's "business as usual is not an option." GE crops will not reduce hunger and poverty, and will only exacerbate social inequality and environmental degradation. IAASTD concludes that sustainable agriculture-where farmers have access to and control of their resources and local markets-is the right solution. A 2007 study from the University of Michigan concluded that organic agriculture could actually increase global food production by as much as 50 percent without using more land.9 Genetic engineering, on the other hand, has already failed to increase yields.10 What has increased due to the planting of GE seeds is the amount of pesticides being sprayed-over 300 million more pounds during the last 13 years.11 Sustainable agro-ecological farming methods are being used throughout the world and are threatened by the spread of GE crops-often forcibly through U.S. trade and food aid policies.'

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetically_modified_plant

'Outcrossing of transgenic plants not only poses potential environmental risks, it may also trouble farmers and food producers. Many countries have different legislations for transgenic and conventional plants as well as the derived food and feed, and consumers demand the freedom of choice to buy GM-derived or conventional products. Therefore, farmers and producers must separate both production chains. This requires coexistence measures on the field level as well as traceability measures throughout the whole food and feed processing chain. Research projects such as Co-Extra, SIGMEA and Transcontainer investigate how farmers can avoid outcrossing and mixing of transgenic and non-transgenic crops, and how processors can ensure and verify the separation of both production chains.
'

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/maria-rodale/we-stand-united-in-opposi_b_816637.html

and if you come to your senses -- you can join the resistance to GE alfalfa

'Monsanto's GE Roundup Ready alfalfa without any restrictions flies in the face of the interests of conventional and organic farmers, preservation of the environment, and consumer choice. USDA has become a rogue agency in its regulation of biotech crops and its decision to appease the few companies who seek to benefit from this technology comes despite increasing evidence that GE alfalfa will threaten the rights of American farmers and consumers, as well as damage the environment. '

when farmers can grow & receive fair wages for traditional, diverse market gardens, there are no vitamin A deficiencies. When they are forced to plant monoculture crops due to globalized markets, THEN vitamin deficiencies come into play. False choice. Next argument?

4 MILLION people die a year from starvation!

We aren't talking about FARMERS! We are talking about the people who NEED the food for consumption!

Do you think you are going to start growing "traditional, diverse market gardens" in the african desert?

People in this world need fed, Golden Rice offers an easy, sustainable, healthy, nutritious way for the industrialized nation to feed the third world, and you are rambling on about how they should just go plant GARDENS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You organic gardening psychophants will never get it...

FACT: 50% (ONE HALF) of all food is wasted on this planet.

FACT: We have a distribution and economic problems, not production problems. If anything IS jeopardizing our production, its the destruction of our soil by GM monocropping with all the 'cides and fossil fuel based fertilizer.

Go to China and see how people raise food. Outside a severe dought, they do just fine. I note will further note that the industrialized food production system we have now, wholly dependent upon fossil fuels, is only going to make the food situation worse, not better as you claim. GM is a boondoggle from start to finish and completely unnecessary to feed the people of this planet.

If my damned printer was printing, I'd print it out and hang it in the kitchen - no, make that ON THE DOOR WHERE EVERYONE COMING IN would see it! Thanks, Ms Bigmack PS, tho happily I don't have many ignorant idiots coming into my house.....

Teach the Controversy - intelligently designed t-shirts:

http://controversy.wearscience.com

Example:

I'd be concerned about. (Also causes spontaneous abortions in swine, horses, etc.)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x500508

Anybody who can read this and conclude that the RR crops have been "proven safe" is batshit insane.

I remember when Thalidomide was "proven perfectly safe" until kids started being born without arms.

But removing a drug from the market is simple compared to corrupting the world's food supply with genetic mutilations.

Really? You're drawing your conclusions from a single, money-seeking proposal of dubious origin and validity?

There are already a bunch of discussions on that very topic, in GD and elsewhere, and the conversation is basically divided into two camps:

1. Accepts Huber's speculation as absolutely correct at face value

2. Questions the thinking behind the sloppily-written letter


Anybody who can read that letter and conclude anything other than "someone using Huber's name is seeking to generate fear" is batshit insane.