First Galaxies of the Universe Discovered With Shockingly Old Stars

http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/2011/04/universes-1st-galaxies-formed-much-earlier-than-thought.html



IMHO, we are going to have to come to terms with the fact that the universe is much older then we think and the Big Bang theory might not be all it's cracked up to be. We find mature objects deeper and deeper in the universe all the time now.

It's a bit too suspicious for the way in which it speaks to primal human needs for beginnings and a story. It should not be confused with a fully grounded scientific theory. There is no strong argument for thinking we're not still only seeing the universe within a horizon.

Of course, then they'd just move the date of the big bang back a few hundred million years, just as they did when the billion year old earth started showing up with 3 billion, 4 billion year old rocks.

My theory, while I have difficulty with the concept of infinity, is that the universe really is infinite, both in time and space, and the big bang was actually a big bounce.

But what do I know?

you make a model based on the best available evidence and if you start finding a large enough quantity of evidence that disagrees with the model, you revise the model.

We all have our theories, but do you have any proof that they can use to make a new model? Some people think that the Universe is 6,000 years old, but that doesn't fit the evidence.

The holey book sez so!

But they are at the very edge of the accepted theory. There's very little wiggle room left.

cosmology is in trouble. There are things which we do not understand. The cover story in the latest Scientific American - "Quantum Gaps in Big Bang Theory". Of course this will just give fuel to my New Earth Creationist boss to criticize science.

A Biology professor acquaintence of mine has concluded that some things involving origins may never be knowable (such as the kick start to life and the origin of the universe). We should keep looking, but much of the information is hidden in time.

The early universe was a hotter place. With everything packed in tighter, stars would have been heating each other up. Could that have caused stars to age faster, making these stars prematurely 'old'?

Had the very early universe already expanded past the point where this would be an effect?

Quite frankly, the claim that the universe was "created" by the expansion of a "pinpoint" of immense energy some 14 billion years ago sounds incredibly absurd.

New observations require ever more elaborate "adjustments" to maintain "Big Bang" cosmology. It is reminiscent of the hypothesis of "epicycles" used to maintain the validity of the Ptolemaic view that the sun, moon, and the planets all revolved around the Earth.

So when I found a copy of "The Big Bang Never Happened: A Startling Refutation of the Dominant Theory of the Origin of the Universe" by Eric Lerner I purchased it and decided that I had found a credible alternative that describes the universe.

In short, Lerner believes that the universe can be explained in terms of plasma physics and electromagnetic theory. Having worked in the electronics field for many years, I felt very comfortable with his writings.

This link to book reviews on Amazon.com should prove helpful.

http://www.amazon.com/Big-Bang-Never-Happened-Refutation/product-reviews/067974049X/ref=dp_top_cm_cr_acr_img?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1

If you want to read some introductory material that is more uptodate, then try this website:

http://www.plasmacosmology.net/index.html

In addition, this site gives a "low tech" overview of the technology that explains it fairly well, and supplies links to other information that, to put it mildly, is fascinating.

but the evidence in support of big bang theory is overwhelming. The things we are talking about now are essentially fiddling at the edges. Like standard model particle theory, big bang theory has consistently made valid predictions and held up to various tests. It is likely that we will find the particle responsible for dark matter in this decade. It may make some unhappy, but it is what it is and we won't be throwing it away any time soon.