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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 12:49 PM
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The Question Mark - "Fox has figured out that by simply putting a question mark
at the end of something, you can say f**king anything." Looks to me as though someone here has learned a lot from Fox.

I am relieved to see that a couple of DUers have suddenly come into their feminist consciousness and have come here to express their concern for us and to remind us, poor, stupid, ignorant, feminist women and men that we haven't, in fact, studied all the possibilities and consequences when we advocate for or step outside our pre-ordained, God-given, biological imperative roles as wife, mother, homemaker/housekeeper, and incubator-on-legs. In one case, they've even gone so far as to start several threads with the ever powerful question mark to express their concern while humbly noting they're not qualified to determine what is or is not a Women's Rights issue and/or appropriate topic for this forum.

Ah yes, the old "if only I knew your rules I could better inform you of how very wrong and ignorant you are in a manner that allows me to do so while pissing all over your forum" gambit; aka feminist baiting which is much akin to its ugly cousin, liberal baiting which can trace its history and construction to the even uglier "Jew-Baiting"; used by bigots since human history began, to disrupt and divide while claiming ignorance and assigning blame for all the world's ills to those under attack.

"How was I supposed to know? You keep changing the rules."
"Geez, I was just asking a question."
"Wow, you feminist types sure are angry."
"I just wanted to find out how you came to such (ignorant) conclusions and set you straight about the real truth."
"If only you understood that I know how you should feel/think/act, you'd be a much happier woman."
"Men are just as (fill-in-the-blank)." Read and learn; "Why I Write Not of Men".

Wait, wait, I almost forgot one of my all-time favorites;
"It was just a joke. Can't you take a joke? Damn, you feminists sure don't have a sense of humor."

You see, if we'd all just learn to act, think, and feel as we are told, the economy would improve, poverty and disease would end, there'd be no more wars, and the world would be a much better place; it's all the fault of feminists and feminist enablers.

So, ladies and gentlemen, thank heavens we're saved from our ignorance and stupidity by those "men" who have come to our rescue; their profiles disabled, their talking-points in order, bringing us the Gospel according to rush/newt/et. al., and, of course, the ever prescient and omniscient, Fox; waving their powerful question marks and feigned humbleness before us so that we, too, can shed our scary, hairy, and feminazi ways to become the perfect little women and non-feminized men God/Fox/and our newly enlightened DUers always intended us to be.



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fenriswolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 12:51 PM
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1. actually they can say whatever they want
it is not illigal for news networks to lie.
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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 01:01 PM
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3. Reading beyond the subject line is sometimes quite informative.
You are correct. The case against CBS (was it CBS?), found that network news departments are not required by law to tell the truth. I'd argue they have a social contract with We, the People, but that wasn't the point of my OP.

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fenriswolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 01:02 PM
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4. heh sorry
been spending some time in the primary room. Most of the content is made up crap. I'm reading the content right now.
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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 01:06 PM
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6. I figured. Not a problem.
It happens a lot around here. :D

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plantwomyn Donating Member (779 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 08:17 PM
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11. fox
Fox ... told the courts there are no rules against distorting the news. They argued the First Amendment Right protected broadcasters when they deliberately lie in their news reports. Yes, that’s right: the media can legally report bullsh*t.
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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 09:52 PM
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12. Hi, plantwomyn, nice ta meetcha.
:hi:

I think it was actually CBS or one of the other "traditional" network "news" sources that got that ruling.

I do, however, think that propaganda is illegal in the US. I also think the Constitution of the US creates a social contract with news sources of which most of the "news" sources are in violation.

If I had the bucks or a great lawyer willing to take it on a pro-bono basis, I'd be mighty tempted to take on the alphabet soup of the US Pravda groups.

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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 12:52 PM
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2. or by changing an unpopular republican
like McCain the other night or Mark Foley during THAT fiasco will somehow continue to make their argument that R=good D=bad
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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 01:04 PM
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5. Or they (and others) can use it in a way I described in the rest of my post n/t
Edited on Sun Feb-10-08 01:10 PM by Cerridwen
edit for spelling
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 01:42 PM
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7. The analogy to fox using the question mark
to spew junk is so spot on it blows me away. Thank you.

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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 01:52 PM
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8. You're welcome and thank you.
Hi, lwfern. Long time no see. :hi:

I haven't been on DU much; the Women's Rights forum even less. When I came over here to read today, it jumped out at me.

Same crap, variation on the condescending "here, let me tell you what's real" mentality, different day. I like smoogatz's idea about paintballs (in another thread). :D

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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 02:01 PM
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9. Not sure if you caught this post:
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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 02:08 PM
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10. LMAO
December 1st?! This has been going on since December 1st?! Wait, wait, I just used the powerful question mark. I didn't mean it that way!

;)

Criminey, I have been away a while.

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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 08:19 AM
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13. narcissists...
"There are only two kinds of people of any use to Narcissists; those who can pump them up and those whom they can put down."
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