Finally! I thought the PETA bashing would never return...

on that thread :) That was really lousy press coverage which fed the feeding frenzy over there, interviewing whacky moms never helps...ha!

However, is it really a good idea to approach children this way with all the security concerns at schools these days?

I'm sure this one will go bye-bye too...

As for that thread, adios all...

I got a nasty (but within the rules) response to my PetaKids post, but obviously the poster didn't read the website, just made some snarky anti-comments. I had to take a deep breath to respond like a 5th grade teacher to this little bully. Sorry you got deleted, your responses are always wonderful :hug:

Guess this is why I don't like starting pro-Peta threads because of this problem, and I'd feel responsible if my friends got into trouble!

And yes, noticed "new faces" on the support team! Maybe we should invite them to help us celebrate the animals here :loveya:

...and I had to jump in. I'm sure I'll be skewerd as an extremist, for not wanting to sink my teeth into muscle flesh, veins and tendons. Oh well, whatever.

Hugs to you too.

Have you guys ever noticed, the most rabid anti's have very low post counts, usually under a hundred. Fear, I smell :) Pro-animal industry trolls? Those we have to be even nicer to, because it really pisses them off!

I did volunteer correspondence replies for an AR group for a couple of years, and learned alot. MOST letters I responded to, I swear, were phishing for AR strategies, because most were anonymous. I had to be very careful. It's been awhile, but I hope you all understand why writing to the big AR groups now require full name and addresses, some even telephone numbers. It usually deters the assholes!

Well, not to mention, it helps build their marketing base too!

Hmmmm.....seems I'm not the only one who is suspicious. :)

At least we're nice enough to help them get those counts up. Anti-PETA/animal rights threads are great ways for the trolls to blend in.

on 'trollspicious' posters in those threads, unless they give me an easy opportunity to correct their diabolic behavior on the thread.

Then again, maybe it just bothers me that I always think the Democratic Party is the Compassionate Party. Even a Dem novice knows never to trust the information Corporate America spews via hate groups like Consumer Freedom.

Ya know, when in doubt, I always side with compassion, just not sure about some of those peta-haters.

To be fair, I do side with some of the Moms annoyed that strangers are approaching their children, so probably not a good Peta tactic?

PETA does a lot of things I disagree with, but I still feel inclined to defend them against the baseless crap that usually floats up in those threads.

And you're right about CCF, or the Fur Commission. I see that shit quoted so much....

I also saw some good posts from posters I'd never even seen before. At least, I think they were good because they said some of the same things that I would have. :)

I missed out on the forums all day because I was out in the backyard catching baby bunnies, buying the largest cage with the smallest mesh I could find, and picking grass, clover and dandelion greens to fill it. I must have done that at least a half dozen times. Man those little dudes are munchers.

Somebody had some rabbits a few blocks away and let them out, or they got out, a couple of years ago. Ever since there have been bunnies all over the neighborhood. Most of them don't last long. The cats or the foxes get them. I saw a fox in the neighbor's yard get one today. :(

Caught them with a fishing net, ironically. It seemed like the best way to go about it. Got three and have at least three to go. Fortunately (or not -- we have a cat) they like to hang out under and around our shed.

The article posted in that thread was on a World Now site. From their "About Us" page The President, CEO and Chairman of the Board is Gary Gannaway.

"A recognized figure in the television broadcast industry, Gary founded the Gannaway Group in 1995 shortly after selling his prior company, Genesis Entertainment, Inc. to Ronald Perelman's New World Communications, now owned by Newscorp's Fox Television."

From U.S. News and World Report:

Fox raids the chicken coop

"After paying a record $ 1.6 billion to acquire broadcast rights for pro football last December, Rupert Murdoch's renegade Fox network has surprised the television industry again. Last week, Murdoch invested $500 million in fellow billionaire Ronald Perelman's New World Communications Group."

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1218/is_n22_v116/ai_n12435303

Sounds like the CEO of World Now has some major right-wing buddies. And the "PETA targets kids" line sounds like a talking point from the Center of Consumer Freedom, which has an article (and 20 page PDF) called "Your Kids, PETA's Pawns" on its petakillsanimals.com site.

Your Kids, PETA's Pawns

How the animal rights movement targets children

A 15-year-old girl attempts to ban circus elephants in Denver. A rash of adolescent-driven, animal-rights-related vandalism hits California. A twelve-year-old boy passes the hat for animal rights. A popular software company promotes a video game about "animal liberation" activists who destroy medical research labs. Ten-year-olds in Ontario are shown "don't kill the animals" videos in public schools. North America's largest animal rights convention features two separate panels titled "Engaging Children." Is there any doubt that the animal rights movement is targeting your kids? In a new report, "Your Kids, PETA's Pawns," the Center for Consumer Freedom explores how one group, the $24 million People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA), devotes substantial resources toward capturing children -- the next generation of potential meat eaters, milk drinkers, circus-goers, and fishermen -- in its cult-like web. In its 2003 annual report, PETA boasts of reaching more than 2.3 million children and teachers with its destructive messages.

Despite denunciations from psychologists and school officials, PETA continues to target children as young as six years old with violent and graphic propaganda. Sidestepping parents and school authorities, PETA lures young and impressionable children into radical activism with a coordinated effort including the use of graphic comic books, grotesque toys, schoolyard demonstrations, e-mail alerts sent directly to 65,000 children, and even a classroom lecturer with a felony rap sheet.

Not convinced? Read "Your Kids, PETA's Pawns" and learn how this radical animal rights group is a multi-million-dollar menace to children of all ages. Teachers, principals, school board members, and school psychologists can request printed copies by e-mailing us your name and job title, the name of your school or school district, and a mailing address. Copies of (suitable for hanging in your faculty lounge) are also available.

You don't think the right wing media would help disseminate the CCF's talking points, do you? Naaaaaaaah.

When I see "quotes" from anti-sites, I usually ask the poster for a link to his info. I can usually nip it in the bud. Not many Dems know that Consumer Freedom fights against raising the minimum wage too.

It all ties in just nicely :)

I love the poster who thought the Democrats could learn from PETA's political and media strategies!

Because in the last week I saw an OP on the lines of "What fake news can we create to rival the right wing's fake news?" I thought of suggesting using PETA's tactics, since they are the best the left has at making news.

But I knew that would have gone over like a lead balloon.

Apparently some are starting to notice that the Dems could learn a few things from PETA. :)

But I don't think I'll bother. The rabid anti-vegs will get their fill and the thread will sink within a day or two.

God forbid some DUers don't go a few days without vilifying one unethical corporation (Enron, for instance) and on the same day defending another unethical corporation (Tyson or KFC, for instance). And god forbid they might see the connection between Republican elitism that allows us to kill brown people with impunity because we arbitrarily believe that they are somehow lesser beings than us, and the general attitude that animals are nothing more than walking snack machines for us because we arbitrarily believe that they are somehow lesser beings than us. (I hope that rant made sense, I'm only on the first cup of coffee this morning)

It's as bad as Republicans are are so blind to their own hypocrisy it makes me want to scream.

That's rich.

Maybe we should point that out in future compassion'bashin' threads!

These same DUers WANT the coffins of our soldiers shown on TV. They WANT the reports of how many people have been killed released. Why? Because they don't want to hide the ugliness that is truth behind the veneer of a pretty neat little war.

This is the same thing except they are playing the Bush "we don't need to see those coffins" side. If you don't think about it it's not there, right?

We need to keep our debates framed, as another forum thread suggested, and learn "to speak like a Jedi" (hope there's SW fans here :). It's basically a very calm approach and ideology towards hate-speak/actions.

We can do this :grouphug:

I have managed to resist. I saw that thread and said "No way, not again!"
After suffering through a bunch of PETA threads I promised myself I would never click on one again.
Came here to get the gist from like-minded people. I can't even read that "tasty animal" crap anymore.

Alec Baldwin and Morrissey Team Up to Pack a PETA Punch

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3747261