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Ranec

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Fri Nov-12-04 01:07 PM
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Thanks for the group!

Is the rights of animals an issue that you think will play in national politics in our lifetimes?

I know that when occasionally there is an outbreak of disease there is an outcry for better treatment of animals, but do you think these issue will eventually gain some sort of traction?

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Gothic Sponge

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Fri Nov-12-04 01:16 PM
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1. Who knows?.....When i first heard of Mad Cow Disease

i was sure animal rights would gain more traction, but it really didn't.

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Ranec

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Fri Nov-12-04 01:27 PM
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2. One of my ongoing issues with some vegetarian groups

is how much they pushed the idea that eating animals was unhealthy and unsafe. It is true, but if they clean up the slaughter houses and push the Atkins' diet then what happens?

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wildflower

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Fri Nov-12-04 01:32 PM
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3. You mean the fact that they push this reason only?

And not other reasons, such as the fact that animals suffer? I don't know.

I do know a lot of people who say they're partial vegetarians because they're trying to "eat healthy." I wish they were considering other reasons as well.

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Ranec

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Fri Nov-12-04 01:37 PM
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4. Yes, exactly

I always worry that if they found out eating vegetarian may not be as healthy as they think then back to burgers they go.

Let me say, I know that for some people a vegetarian diet is not an option. I also have seen some people who wanted to eat a healthy vegetarian diet that ended up eating a terribly bad and unbalanced diet.

I just hope that people would consider that animals had some moral standing.

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DemExpat

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Fri Nov-12-04 02:07 PM
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5. My major reason for eating mostly vegetarian IS the animal welfare

issue.

I personally do not believe that good quality and compassionately raised/transported/slaughtered (compassionate slaughter?) animal meat is unhealthy food in moderation....

But because of the manner in which animals are treated, reduced to an economic product to manufacture for the highest profit, I have turned away from meat - especially meat from fellow mammals.

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Lorien

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Fri Nov-12-04 05:53 PM
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6. Only if our society can get past rampant selfishness and greed

right now, the only way you can convince others to care about the welfare of non-human species is to frame it in such a way that the mistreatment of animals is tied to their own welfare (mad cow, antibiotic use, people who beat pets become serial killers, etc.). I see compassion ridiculed regularly on these boards. I'm glad that I finally have a forum to go to that's somewhat "safe" for a bleeding heart like myself!

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CrispyQ

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Fri Nov-12-04 06:18 PM
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7. Forgive my cynicism, but the world won't go veg until . . .

...economically forced to do so. When there is so little food left that it is finally apparent to everyone that it is stupid to feed it to a cow, then maybe things will change. But even then they will go veg, kicking & screaming all the way.

You can't get 59 million people in the US to give a shit about an Iraqi child -- why would they give a shit about a chicken?

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