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TheDebbieDee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 12:12 PM
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I know this is an American History forum, but.......
with the firing of a 4-star General and the slapping down of another 4-star General, maybe there are some parallels in history to explain the real reason that the * admin is so hot to spread our military forces even thinner with talk of an Iranian invasion:

Hitler invaded Russia and set-up camps for a substantial number of his troops in North Africa.

Maybe it was, in part, because he was afraid to keep them in Europe when he knew that some of his Generals would eventually begin plotting to overthrow his regime.

If a large amount of his troops were successful invading Russia, so much the better: they were busy and out of the way until he needed them for some other mission.

Hitler could, oh, maybe even get away with stealing elections with his military off-balance from deployments and re-deployments.

If his invasion of Russia was not successful, then those troops and their commanders were one less enemy from which the paranoid Hitler had to defend himself.

Can you see any other parallels with current events?

I read somewhere that Bush majored in history.
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HawkerHurricane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 07:08 PM
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1. Substantial?
The Africa Corp (Duetche Afrika Korps) had only 3 German Divisions, plus 6 Italian. Compare that with the invasion of Russia (111 divisions of Germans, 14 Rumanian divisions, 3 Hungarian divisions, 4 Finn divisions)...
Hitler's prewar objectives consisted of
1. uniting all Germans (Siezure of Austria, Czechisloviakia)
2. restoring the borders of Germany (Attack on Poland)
3. avenging the loss of WW1 (Low Countries, France)
4. destroy communism, sieze the Ukraine breadbasket and Caucacous oil fields.

Hitler's paranoia was not a major factor until the Army started losing battles... which didn't really start until 1943.

You want WW2 parrellels? Look at Josef Stalin.

1. Purge of the officer corp of political unreliebles
2. Invasion of country for revenge (Poland)
3. Invasion of 2nd country for no good reason leading to embarassment (Finnland)
4. Unwillingness to face military realities (opening attack by Germany)
5. Failure to listen to intelligence experts (same as 4)
6. Interference with military operations for political reasons (Defense of Kiev, Leningrad, Moscow, Stalingrad).

BushCo aren't Nazis. They're Communists.
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