Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Can you help me find the right word? Please?

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » DU Groups » Religion & Spirituality » Astrology, Spirituality & Alternative Healing Group Donate to DU
 
Sanity Claws Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 10:55 AM
Original message
Can you help me find the right word? Please?
Edited on Sat Sep-05-09 10:56 AM by Sanity Claws
I'm writing a story where a human enters a parallel world filled with elementals, like leprechauns, gnomes, and banshees, and deities, like Shiva and Ganesh. I might throw in a Christian saint or ascended master or two.
Is there a good word I could use to describe them as a collective? Or perhaps a word for this parallel universe?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
winyanstaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 12:58 PM
Response to Original message
1. ummm how about Astral Plane?
hehee..since it is a parallel world anyways..and it is filled with elementals and leprechauns, gnomes and banshees and what ever your mind can invent.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Sanity Claws Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 09:05 PM
Response to Reply #1
5. This is good
Now to find a word for the collective group of elementals and deities.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 06:46 AM
Response to Reply #5
10. I keep thinking
"host" or "hosts".
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
winyanstaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 12:14 AM
Response to Reply #5
15. Entities
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
SheilaT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 11:33 AM
Response to Reply #1
11. Astral Plane does not strike me as
a good choice, as it already means something else.

Otherworld is good. Or maybe even make up some word for it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
winyanstaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 12:15 AM
Original message
the astral plane is a parellel "world"....
and is just as "real" there as this world is here. It just has different rules.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
winyanstaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 12:15 AM
Response to Reply #11
16. sorry, this was a double post cause I held the key too long...:P
Edited on Mon Sep-07-09 12:16 AM by winyanstaz
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Silver Gaia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 02:27 PM
Response to Original message
2. Have you read Robert Holdstock's Mythago Wood?
Edited on Sat Sep-05-09 02:28 PM by Silver Gaia
Or any of Charles de Lint's work? They each write of similar things. Just came to mind when I read your post. Perhaps there may be some ideas there that would spark you?

ETA: Meant to reply to the OP.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Sanity Claws Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 09:06 PM
Response to Reply #2
6. Haven't read them
I might read them after I finish my project. I don't want to be influenced by them while I'm still in the early stages.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 03:37 PM
Response to Original message
3. I usually call the parallel universe the Otherworld
A Celtic term, I believe, but don't quote me on that.

Still thinking about a collective term for the beings...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Sanity Claws Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 09:07 PM
Response to Reply #3
7. I'll look into this
This world will have a heavy Celtic influence.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 12:05 AM
Response to Reply #3
9. I like Otherworld.
They are the unseen beings we know are there. The Irish just call them the faery folk.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 04:00 PM
Response to Original message
4. dreamtime, summerland, across the veil, bardo
Edited on Sat Sep-05-09 04:03 PM by Shallah Kali
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Sanity Claws Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 09:08 PM
Response to Reply #4
8. Lots of stuff here
Thanks, Shallah Kali.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
winyanstaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 12:16 AM
Response to Reply #4
17. Those are all common names for the Astral plane :) and all good ones too
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ricochetastroman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 04:15 PM
Response to Original message
12. uh, well, this is hard...
familiars, go-betweens, netherworld, perdition, abyss, limbo, phantom, transcendents, surreal,

whatever! :shrug:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Sanity Claws Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 07:49 PM
Response to Reply #12
13. Good ideas
I'll look up all of them but transcendents kind of hit me. I might play with it.
Thank you.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ricochetastroman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 09:57 PM
Response to Reply #13
14. I give credit
to my gal, Cheryl Crise

glad you might consider it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 06:59 AM
Response to Original message
18. Perhaps you could consider how these extra-normal entities would refer to themselves?
The human entering their world would be the guest, after all, so wouldn't she adopt their terminology?

I mean, how would we collectively refer to ourselves if we were visited by a leprechaun or a banshee?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Sanity Claws Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 07:05 AM
Response to Reply #18
19. I've had problems with that one too
Edited on Mon Sep-07-09 07:05 AM by Sanity Claws
I need to differentiate the worlds as the protagonist goes between them. I'm thinking the wee folk call us the big ones or the big folk. As for the gods, they call as mortals.
I don't yet have a word for the world in which we live.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 07:23 AM
Response to Reply #19
20. I think it kind of depends on the story's POV
If the story is told from the protagonist's perspective, then it's natural that she'd refer to "the world in which we live" as "home" or "Earth" or the like, assuming that travel between the realms is unusual.

I mean, if you yourself were suddenly dropped into the middle of Tajikistan for a week or two and then somehow managed to get back to your own neighborhood, I think the temptation to refer to the latter as "home" would be very strong. All the more so if you're traveling between dimensions or realms or whatnot, right? Especially considering that ordinary folk don't even bother to refer to our "native dimension" at all...

But if you're telling it from a third person POV, then you're right that you'd need to have a way to distinguish them.


Is it possible that the gnomes et al are aware of "our" world and view it as a subset of their own? I think that would be kind of funny, in fact, because they'd already have some way of referring to Earth, and they certainly wouldn't consider ours to be main street!

Maybe they'd consider their realm to be The World and ours to be Earth?



Fun question in any case! I'm interested to hear what you come up with!

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 08:04 AM
Response to Original message
21. Unitarians?
:evilgrin:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Sanity Claws Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 10:24 AM
Response to Reply #21
24. We are all one
That is the basic premise of the story so that idea fits in. Thanks for reading the thread.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 12:46 PM
Response to Original message
22. The Dreaming or Dreamtime?
Edited on Tue Sep-08-09 12:49 PM by Matariki
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dreamtime

In Australian Aboriginal mythology, The Dreaming or Altjeringa (also called the Dreamtime) is a sacred 'once upon a time' <1> time out of time in which ancestral Totemic Spirit Beings formed The Creation.

Fred Alan Wolf opens chapter nine of The Dreaming Universe (1994) entitled The Dreamtime with a quote from The Last Wave, a film by Peter Weir:

Aboriginals believe in two forms of time; two parallel streams of activity. One is the daily objective activity, the other is an infinite spiritual cycle called the "dreamtime", more real than reality itself. Whatever happens in the dreamtime establishes the values, symbols, and laws of Aboriginal society. It was believed that some people of unusual spiritual powers had contact with the dreamtime.

more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dreamtime
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Sanity Claws Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 10:23 AM
Response to Reply #22
23. Thank you
I never heard that term before. This gives me lots to read about and learn.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Fri May 03rd 2024, 01:28 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » DU Groups » Religion & Spirituality » Astrology, Spirituality & Alternative Healing Group Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC