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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 07:31 PM
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Some thoughts about the miracle baby.
For those of you who haven't heard of this. Here is the link: http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/miracle-mom-baby-die-labor-revived/story?id=9442043
(Apologies for the FloMax commercial.)

In what is being hailed as a Christmas "miracle," a young mother died during labor with a still-born baby on Christmas Eve but both mom and baby came back to life just minutes later, before the eyes of the nearly heartbroken, stunned father.

"Half of my family was lying there right in front of me -- there's no other way to say it -- dead," Mike Hermanstorfer told ABC News' Colorado affiliate KRDO. "I lost all feeling. Once her heartbeat stopped, I felt like mine did too."

Hermanstorfer's wife, Tracey, had suffered cardiac arrest while she was in labor at Memorial Hospital in Colorado Springs.

"They were getting ready to put a catheter in and I closed my eyes and don't remember anything after that," Tracey said.

She had no pulse, no heartbeat, was not breathing and was turning "gray," Dr. Stephanie Martin, director of maternal fetal medicine at Colorado's Memorial Hospital, told CBS News' Colorado affiliate KKTV. "She was dead."

"I sat there with my wife's hand in mine, ice cold," Mike told KKTV.

After trying to revive Tracey for several minutes to no avail, doctors ordered an emergency C-section with no anesthesia in an attempt to save the baby. The baby was delivered, but it too was not breathing.

But then Mike and the doctors were astounded when Tracey's pulse returned, just after birth. Doctors quickly wheeled Tracey into surgery to complete the C-section. Then, while the mom was being operated on, other doctors worked to get the baby breathing again and eventually it came back as well.


I can't help but think that this child is special and that Spirit could not let the baby die, nor his mother whom would be needed to nurture him. It seems the time of year is also auspicious when he decided to be born. No I'm not thinking he could be the second coming of Christ especially since it's pretty well established that Jesus was not born around the time of the Winter Solstice, but that the early church took that date from the pagan worship of the sun to make it easier to convert them to Christianity. However, he could become an important figure when he becomes an adult. It would be interesting to know if the mother had a near death experience when she died and what she learned about her and her child's destiny while on the other side.

Anybody else have any thoughts or intuition about this?
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 08:35 PM
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1. What a wonderful story!
Thanks for posting this, Cleita. I got the sense that both mother and child have important work to do in this lifetime, likely together. Whether that's big or "small" (nonfamous, local) remains to be seen, but as all souls living during/born at this challenging time have signed on to tackle major assignments, it would make sense that they would work hard to ensure that they stay on this plane, even when their bodies temporarily failed them.

Still way, way cool. :)
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 08:41 PM
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2. Not only this, I was watching the moon rise behind my house and remembered
Edited on Wed Dec-30-09 08:43 PM by Cleita
that this is a "blue moon" month when there is a full moon twice in a month, a fairly unusual occurrence. I wonder if the astrologers have noticed anything else that could also be portents?
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Kind of Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 08:57 PM
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3. Outstanding, Cleita.
Thanks for the link to this remarkable story. Miracles like this really highlights the wonders of it all. Even if the family does nothing but maintain their love for each other through ups and downs because of this experience, that's enough for me to cheer lives well lived.
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 09:25 PM
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4. Interesting name they picked out for the child (Coltyn).
The baby name websites I looked at say it means things like "swarthy" and "coal." Hee.

More at link:

http://news.scotsman.com/world/Christmas-39miracle39--as-mother.5947759.jp
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Dream Girl Donating Member (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 11:14 PM
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5. I had a different take
Perhaps the bayb and mother dies and thier bodes were two souls who wanted to experience this lifetime together came into those two dead bodies. Perhaps they wanted to experience this incarnation togehter. Another possiblity, a single soul incarnated into both bodies in a sort of duality of experience in this lifetime.
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Delphinus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 07:45 PM
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7. Interesting.
Something I'd not thought about. Thanks for sharing.

And, belated welcome. I hope you enjoy this space. :hi:
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 10:01 AM
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6. Per CNN just now, baby took his first breath at 12:46 p.m. that day.
Edited on Tue Jan-05-10 10:04 AM by BlueIris
If anyone wants to look at Coltyn's chart. (12/24/09; Colorado Springs, CO.)
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