any DUers with psychic ability?

I am not kidding, nor am I a whack job. I do believe there are some people with genuine and varying degrees of psychic perception.

So, if any of you have such capability, I would like to ask what are your feelings about the scope and results of the PlameGate investigation. Any ideas about its breadth? Will it touch on the conspiracy that got us into the Iraq debacle? Will it (eventually) reach the top- B*sh and Cheney? Might Chimpy's impeachment happen?

If any one of you have a "sixth sense", please I'd like to hear your comments.

Further (since this is an astrology board as well), what do the stars say regarding the conclusion of Plamegate?

I think that these indictments will go all the way to the top. My strongest hope is that *bush will be impeached but something tells me if he is it will be later. He will be rendered impotent even if no one is prosecuted. He lost by being a greedy politician.

Someone or some force is lifting him off the body of America like a tick off a dog. He really pissed someone off and I think he and his sidekicks will be wishing what is coming for them was only a bad dream.

When you really feel invested in an outcome it's best not to try and predict. However, I'm still very hopeful that I haven't missed by too much.

as successful, a failure or a catastrophic failure?

I can't help but think they will consider him a train wreck. Only time will tell huh. Maybe some of the others around here will pop in and add their two cents so we'll have more opinions to go on.

Will Bush be indicted though? I don't get anything strong. I still get mixed feelings personally but I am hoping! I can recieve things myself. Last November or late October shortly before the election I recieved this huge feeling that Bush will go down. It was very strong and clear. I don't think it was dealing with the election now that I think about it (obviously) so I think he will eventually. I don't get anything with him passed mid/late summer of 2006. Is it just me? :shrug: Don't know.
I also had this feeling that in late mid/late part of the summer of 2006 we will start to see more of Kerry/Edwards. :shrug: The thing to remember is things change all the time. The future isn't concerte either way. But I remember when I first found out about the Fitzgerald case that he was going for something really big. More than Karl Rove and Libby. Someone once predicted here that a blonde woman will bring down Bush.

Okay, I'll go with what I independently sense, since that was the question addressed by the original post in this thread.

Bush is done. My sense is that it will be by resignation, rather than the forced removal of Impeachment.

Cheney and several others are going to get indicted for nothing less than violating the Espionage Act. Can't tell you if I think Bush is also getting hit with an actual indictment.

These combined "black" marks on the Republican Party help the Democrats and other progressives establish a majority in the House and Senate in '06. I can't claim that it's going to make that majority very wide--even if I thought the exposure of the corruption of The Gang could make Republicans see the light, election fraud is still too likely a possibility to count Republican officials down and out in the midterms.

I've had a sense since the (s)election last year that despite everyone's fears of the worst, all of this works out (long term) relatively well...

When you sit and mediate on next year you can feel a big difference. Not huge but enough to really notice things will be different next year. I do think there will be some republicans in the House and Senate of course but they won't be the majority. After the next year's elections we as a country can (and will) start to heal. I personally don't believe in coincidences or anything like that, so I think all of this is happening for some purpose. Maybe to make our country stronger so we won't go down this path again. Of course there will always be PNACers out there sadly. :(

OK, I've never posted this here before. But after the election I asked WHY OH WHY did this fool get re-elected and why did we have to suffer this in our country? My answer was that this country is paying back the karma of killing off the Native Americans and also its treatment of African Americans through slavery. I was also told that things had to get a lot worse than they were then (2004) because the pendulum had to swing all the way to the right before it could balance itself back to the center again to ensure that we would never ever have a president like George W. Bush again. I don't know when that point will come (I hope, I hope it is now). I'm not really sure if my guides could say when, because as we all know, we have free will and we create our own reality.

What is so interesting to me is this--regarding Hurricane Katrina--New Orleans was one of the biggest slave trade markets during the Civil War (coincidence? I don't believe in coincidence)and Bush's appalling performance here hurt him greatly. Also, the Plamegate grand jury is supposedly made up of mostly African Americans. Also, the Abramoff scandal has to do with "Indian" gaming. I don't think these are coincidences.

But one thing I was told is for sure--we all chose to be here at this time and we have the strength to see it through.

It ties together certain threads for me...hopefully, I can post more about those in the future, but I just don't feel up to it right now.

I also believe we are getting some huge karma back as well and we haven't learned the lesson from Vietnam. But I think we have this time around. So hopefully it won't happen again. I found it very interesting and strange with the jury of the Plame scandal. But yes all of this is happening for a greater purpose and will make our country stronger than ever. I was also told that Bush has to take responsibility for his deeds and the "powers that be" want him to. Of course knowing him he probably won't.

and the directions your post went really made me think about alot of this current shitstorm in a new way - I think you are on to something.

My gut tells me that this crisis will hobble the Bush administration to the point of rendering it completely ineffectual for the remainder of the term. I don't think Bush will pay the price we all wish for, he is simply too well connected. He may be rendered impotent, but he will not have to face the consequences in a meaningful way.

I started out by writing that he would finish his 2nd term and during that paragraph got a flash that he won't. It is late and I'm tired, so who knows what that flash really was!

I also feel that those people who lives were taken in recent world wide disasters were taken to form a sort of spiritual army to fight the dark forces that are running rampant on our world at this time. They are part of a guardian legion of spirits. Even here at DU we have DU'ers who have passed like Junk Drawer, Kephra, Nostamj and Andy Stephenson, who are specifically watching and guarding this place from those who would want to censor what we say and think.

I'm not psychic, but I do intuit a lot and am guided by my feelings about things. I always know about life changing events in my social circle, like weddings, divorces and deaths before they happen. I really do believe that spirit guides try to communicate to you what is the best course of action for you to take in a matter. However, because we do have free will, we don't have to listen.

You have just put many things in perspective. Thx, it is amazing to see it laid out so clearly.

I have such strong ties to the Earth and I am having trouble understanding why we need to experience such destruction. My own personal energy is so deeply troubled by what I see. Going back to the early 80's, I sometimes cry when I drive by an area that is being developed. Seeing trees cut down and replaced by housing upsets me greatly, physically. My youngest son, who is 9, experiences this as well.

My intuition, which is very strong, tells me that we have quite a bit further to go before we see a turn for the better. Though I tend to want to withdraw, I am trying to stay focused on loving others and bring good into their lives and seeing the good in all that surrounds us.

I do not see * realizing his karma in this lifetime. But, I do feel (very strongly) that he will no longer be in the picture come early June '05. But, I also feel that the damage this admin has wrought will long outlast them.

I fell too that the only way that we Americans will return to our true values will be thru having to return to our roots a bit. Thru growing our own food and etc. THese things will bring us back to a sense of community and caring for one another.

I completely understand your empathic feelings as to what is going on and how the earth is being abused.

I agree that Bush may not last much longer, but I think the test for us as a nation goes beyond that. Will we put the right people in place to fix everything that he destroyed, as well as the things that needed to be fixed prior to Bush? Or will we go down the same destructive path? If so, hope is not gone, but it will take longer.

My feeling is that with each tragedy (9-11,Iraq, Katrina, tsunamis, earthquakes, global warming)more and more people are awakened to the fact that we are all connected and we can no longer live our lives without regard for our fellow man. There has to come a tipping point where enough of us are awakened that we can influence the rest before this karmic cycle can end and balance be achieved. I myself have hope because I believe people are awakening at a much faster pace than I thought a few years ago.

I would say all of us who visit this board (and others) already see the light and we came here for the purpose of giving service to those who need to see the light during this transition. It's very difficult to remain detached so we can carry out our missions.

I don't know if I would call it "psychic." Intuitive, yes.

I can't answer your question; other than seeing post titles here at DU about Plame, I don't know enough about it to get a sense. I haven't paid attention.

It's not that I don't care. It's that my "sense" has told me, all along, that * and his ilk are a symptom, not the disease itself. That the diseases of fear, hate, and greed are what lies at the root of our current dysfunction, and that until we address those diseases across the nation, our political system will continue to suffer from them, too.

That doesn't really answer your question, although it points to a direction for our focus that would truly heal this nation.

if you look around the posts in this forum, you'll find we've been discussing this stuff since before the election. the couple of threads referring to a woman bringing Bush down are a good place to start. The discussion began when a number of folks did tarot readings getting 'the queen of cups' as an indicator of what would bring the bush regime down. Clearly it was going to be a woman, but who? Of course it makes sense now in retrospect.

There's a whole thread of tarot readings that are interesting posted last November, a few days after the election, as well as lots of very good astrology threads. Look for threads from Nancy Waterman, an excellent astrologer who focuses on political subjects.

I did a reading right after the election that indicated to me that Bushco would be taken down in Court. At the time I believed (hoped) it had to do with fixing the election but it's worked out differently. While I doubt he himself will go to jail (although I can see him seriously restricted in *some* way), I'd place bets on members of his administration going go to jail. It also won't surprise me if rove commits suicide if he's indicted. I also think this will have a very interesting effect on the psyche of the american public - a serious crisis of sorts. The kind of crisis the Kennedy assassination supposedly caused - not a 'loss of innocence' this time, but a shock. Hopefully a wake up call.

I hadn't thought of suicides when the three of Swords came up at the end of a very specific reading. I thought they would be turning on each other, stabbing each other in the back, figuratively, after the indictments that could come down soon. Suicide is an interesting idea. It must be that they are so guilty that they know it's the only way out for some of them.

It will be interesting to see how this plays out.

I think Libby will be more likely to commit suicide. I think some of the other "players" are also in danger of this. Chaney isn't long for this world under any circumstance. Rove can still play from anywhere. He has never liked publicity and remains, in my opinion, mostly behind the scenes. For all of his importance, his public appearances are minimal. I think he will continue to operate as usual, whether from a jail cell or a mansion. I feel W is going to end up in a terrible place. He doesn't accept defeat and he has a history? of alcohol abuse, and will have easy access to expand to narcotics, if he hasn't already. He will self destruct, but I think it won't be in public view - I see his future playing out much like Elvis Presley's or Howard Hughes. Carter was able to evolve in the eyes of his enemies to the "best ex-president we ever had." This obviously will not be the case with W.

We'll have to mark this thread and come back to it at a later date.

Rove - suicide or 'plane accident' (possibly faked?)
Libby - jail
Cheney - resigned. possibly pardoned.
Bush - what you said
host of others - a range of jail sentences, some mitigated through deals in exchange for testimony.

Valerie. Joe Wilson will have been the architect of Bush's destruction. Bush should not have pissed off the CIA and tried to blame them. It was a bad mistake. Now Tenant is being dragged in. That will do no good. Cheney is gone. He will resign, as will Rove and Libby. Take it to the bank. Bush is himself in political danger but whatever happens his political clout is done. Meirs will not be confirmed. I have always said that Bush would not complete his term. I still don't see it happening. But I also didn't see his "election" but I saw him taking the oath. He wasn't elected. The election was fraudulent and many, even on our side, know it.But they will not allow it to be proven. K/E know that the evidence will NEVER be released but they continue to fight in Ohio because they know.