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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 12:51 PM
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2012 & the Mayan calendar
Edited on Wed Dec-28-05 01:05 PM by I Have A Dream
I don't know much about what is to occur in 2012 except that it is to be great change. Anyone have any thoughts or information about this issue? It seems like a good time to discuss it since it's the end of the year and 2012 is only a few years away now.

For anyone who's not familiar with the Mayan calendar, here's a link to a site that describes it:

http://www.saxakali.com/historymam7.htm

(I know that there has been some mention of this issue in some recent posts, but I haven't seen any posts that have directly discussed the issue.)
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 01:19 PM
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1. In the latest "Message From Matthew" post, he
talks about linear time coming to an end. He says we should have been noticing that time is going faster. Maybe this is what it's about in part.
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davsand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 01:23 PM
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2. I just figured that speed up of time was my age.
Don't laugh, but as I have gotten older I have a bigger balance of time to compare it to. I just figured my point of reference had changed to reflect that. When you are ten a year is a LONG time--it is one tenth of your lifetime. When you are middle aged, it really isn't as big of a deal...

:shrug:


Laura
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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 01:35 PM
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3. Yes, that's the way I feel about time also. n/t
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devinsgram Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-31-05 03:10 PM
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9. I just noted to my husband, that very thing,
Just take for instance what has been accomplished in the last 100 hundred years, especially when you take into consideration what has happened since 1 AD till 1900 AD.
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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 01:37 PM
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4. It's the end of a precessional cycle.
Every 26000 years or so, the Earth goes through a precessional cycle. We are near the end of one.
Also, the Mayan calendar listed something like 5 'lives' for the Earth - and 2012 is supposed to be the end of the 4th and start of the 5th.

I'm not an expert but have picked up lots of bits and pieces from a couple message boards and sites:

www.grahamhancock.com - message boards

http://www.levity.com/eschaton/Why2012.html


:hi:
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Quakerfriend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 08:27 PM
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5. On a slightly different note,
I once went to have a past life regression done and the medium could not 'take me back' to any of my past life times. But, the coolest thing happened! As she tried to move me back and forth through time (under hypnosis), I could feel and see time going by- As if someone were flipping the pages of a giant phone book.

I came away from that experience with a TRUE understanding of time.
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InvisibleTouch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 04:39 PM
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6. My thought:
And let me preface this by saying I know almost nothing about the Mayan calendar or prophecies, nor do I consider myself psychic or "sensitive" in any way at all. But some of the concepts in this thread just "clicked" with me when I read them.

I've seen 2012 in the Mayan calendar referred to as "the end of time," basically the end of the world. Or, as has been noted, "the end of linear time" (bit of a difference). If we're ending the 4th age and beginning the 5th, that sounds to me like a major shift in mindset, consciousness, and lifestyle.

Now, for the last few years I've become increasingly convinced that our current energy-consumptive, technological lifestyle is on the brink of collapse. The cities are going to implode into hellholes when the energy runs out. I've felt a steady low-level panic impelling me to get out of the city, find a place in the wilderness, and become absolutely self-sufficient and off-the-grid. I'm fascinated by all things related to a more natural mode of survival; I look at my basic necessities of life and ask myself "How did people do this 100 years ago, or 1000 years ago?" It can be done; there's a lot of "necessities" in our daily lives that we've been conditioned to "need," which are not in fact necessities. As we'll find out, when civilization collapses around us. I think it's closer than many believe.

Now, might it be possible that the Mayan date of 2012 will be the turning point? I've always said that while we know things today that the ancients did not and could not have known, they also knew things that we don't know, and maybe they called it long ago. The world (or its survivors, at least) will have to go back to the old, non-technological way of doing things. Time as we know it, as we measure it in minutes and seconds, and the artificial slavery that it imposes on us, will take on a whole new meaning. We'll have to live our lives by the seasons again, by the passage of days, by the growth of crops, by births, deaths, and other lifetime events.

And the survivors will be those who are already mentally prepared for the shift.
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Quakerfriend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 07:24 PM
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7. Yes, you are so right
And, I too, have felt compelled to 'get ready' for what is to come.
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doublethink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-30-05 11:51 PM
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8. For what it's worth ....
There is no such thing as the 'end of the world' ... only a new beginning. That being said doesn't mean that the 'shit won't hit the fan' beforehand though. :( .... and as for the 2012 date, our Gregorian Calender isn't as accurate at the Mayan, so when interpreting dates form one to the other .... the 2012 year could actually fall anywhere as early as 2007 ..... on up to 2012. The long count transferring of Jesus birth at 0 ... instead of when he was actually born probably 5 b.c. ..... (had to do with Herod wanting to slaughter all the male children 2 years and younger, then the date of Herod's death later which added up in the historical record to put Jesus birth at around 5 B.C. .. bla bla bla ..) could put the last year of the mayan calender anywhere between 2007 and 2012? No one really knows? Interesting stuff anyway. Keep the faith. Peace. :)
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leanin_green Donating Member (823 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 02:52 AM
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10. Our solar structure is moving into a different density of space.
This is 4th density and the vibrational quality has already begun. If you watch how "the people" respond to disasters and the like, how they automatically come together and help one another. This is a glimpse into 4th density behavior. However, the governments of the world are resisting the uniting that wants to happen in the masses. 2012 is the critical mass for this energy to permeate the globe as well as the solar system.

Recently, Saturn and Neptune began to take on different states of luminesence. There are signs that this is happening all throughout the solar system. As we move into this new density of space, a shift will happen. There is an interesting site that covers much of the scientific and celestial phenomena:

http://www.divinecosmos.com

Interesting reading.
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