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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 09:34 PM
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Please share your thoughts on this aspect of the Secret.
Edited on Sat Dec-30-06 09:55 PM by bliss_eternal
I've been reading the Secret. :)

I was just curious as to how some here feel about the aspect that says that are thoughts create our reality...in this regard:

from page 28
Often when people first hear this part they recall moments in history where masses of lives were lost, and they find it incomprehensible that so many people could have attracted themselves to the event. It doesn't necessarily mean they thought of that exact event, but the frequency of their thoughts matched the frequency of the event. If people believe they can be at the wrong place at the wrong time, and they have no control over outside circumstances, those thoughts of fear, separation, and powerlessness, if persistent, can attract them to being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

:shrug:

Anyone have any thoughts on this?

When I look at crimes like child molestation and rape, I have a very difficult time aligning myself with the idea that anyone could "think themselves" into such a thing. :( Children, for the most part don't even understand what is done to them in that sense, so how could they ever think themselves into such a thing? So in that sense, this is a bit troubling. Not so much so that I can't put to use the other aspects of the book, study, etc. Just something that gave me pause and made me curious to inquire what others thought about this. Or is there a way you put this into perspective? Or perhaps dismissed this aspect altogether because it doesn't resonate with you? Is there a better way to frame this?

:hi:

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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 12:59 AM
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1. I've thought about this too, bliss.
It is somewhat hard to swallow, but if you read that paragraph again (the one you quoted in your post), the answer is there. People may not even be conscious that they are thinking thoughts that attract certain events to themselves, yet they are.

I was thinking about Jonestown, all those people, literally drinking the Koolaide and dying. With this group of people, they were feeling lost, or directionless, or that something was missing in their lives. They may have attracted something positive to themselves, but I think they got to the point where those thoughts consumed them so much that when Jim Jones showed up, promising them a better life, they grabbed onto him like a drowning person would grab on to a lifesaver.

It's a little more difficult where young children are concerned. I believe that our unconscious or subconscious minds know more and are aware of more than our conscious minds do, unless we work at connecting to the un- or subconscious parts of ourselves. So with children, maybe that's what it is. Maybe it's leftover stuff from a past life. Maybe it's something they picked up in-utero; mom was a worrier; mom and dad fought, dad was a worrier. Those thoughts and words were transferred to the child while he/she was still developing in the womb, and it set the stage for them to then attract the negative to themselves, even as young ones. I don't mean that in a blaming way; as I said, it's a bit harder for me to swallow where young ones are concerned. But it's how I try to make sense of it.

Just my 2 cents.
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 04:07 PM
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4. Hi Seattle Girl...
...I appreciate your sharing your thoughts on this. :hug:
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 02:06 PM
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2. Personally..
I can't accept this part of the 'teaching'. It was taught early on in my metphysical career (1980). I simply disagree with teachers who say there was never an atrocity without a volunteer.

I know that the intentions I put out are always for safe travel and no harm. But I cannot judge what someone else who had a very differenct experience did. That's judgmental. And we are not to judge. That's the higher teaching.
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 04:16 PM
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5. Hi votesomemore...
...I recall having a tough time with this when I started to study metaphysics and buddhism. I'm going to have to join forces with you and say I disagree with this, too. :hi:

I appreciate what you've shared about not judging. That helps gives me some perspective, too.

If I may ask, do you have a tough time utilizing the teachings in spite of disagreeing with this particular aspect?

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Pathwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 02:49 PM
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3. Never mind - self deleted.
Edited on Sun Dec-31-06 03:26 PM by Notorious Bohemian
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 04:18 PM
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6. Hi Notorious Bohemian...
:hi: Good to see you anyway!
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