Something I must post: Silver hydrosol (aka "colloidal silver") is saving my life.

I'm not ready to post this story completely, due to time constraints, but it occurs to me that other people need to know this.

I have been sick with chronic fatigue-immune dysfunction syndrome (also known as myalgic encephalomyelitis) for over 20 years, nearly 30 years I guess. By this time, all the voluntary muscles in my body were seized up in little hard charlie-horses -- that is, the central core of each muscle. The rest of the muscle was completely without tone at all, completely flaccid. I don't know if this is understandable, but if you were to feel my arm, you would shriek, as my daughter did, and say, oh, my goodness, there's no muscle in there at all! But way down deep there would be a little hard walnut-sized, maybe ping-pong ball sized, KNOT that would be very painful. I think this is what they call fibromyalgia.

I also had developed Renaud's phenomenon, which is when your hands and feet go dead white in the cold, or when you press on them.

It has been suggested by some researchers that our circulation doesn't work correctly because we don't have enough healthy red blood cells to fill up all the blood vessels and supply oxygen to all our organs and muscles, so that blood is withheld from skin and extremities. This might be because there are viruses or mycoplasma or some nasty critter or other attacking our red cells constantly. When they become misshapen, the spleen takes them out of circulation. It's a constant process. I think this is also called -- some kind of anemia. Hemolytic anemia. Makes sense to me, because I could not bear to stand up, had no memory left, and felt generally oxygen-starved. (I didn't know how oxygen starved I was until I became un-starved.)

I've been kind of afraid to start using "colloidal" silver, due to all the different arguments on-line, and the difficulty of determining what the truth actually is re: silver as a medicine. Recently, due to a boo-boo with antibiotics, I started to get really sick, and I thought I should try it.

So I did a little research, and went and got some of what I think is probably the best and safest: Sovereign Silver, made by Natural-Immunogenics.

I was watching the news. Wait, I have to provide some context.

I took a dose of this silver water, a teaspoon. Maybe in ten minutes I did a second. I wasn't really paying attention all that much. Suddenly I felt this tingling on my shins, which was very intense, and spread to my feet, toes, arms, hands and fingers. It got painful -- it was as if those body parts were waking up after being asleep due to circulation being cut off. It hurt. And I was amazed, because it felt like parts of my body were indeed waking up.

Then, and this is what was so amazing, all my muscles, wihch have been knotted up and so painful for so long, years and years, which could not be induced to relax by drug, massage, bath, nothing -- they all just let go. That was maybe two or three weeks ago. The skin on my feet, which had gotten all cracked and dried out and looked like it was at least 90 years old, has returned to normal. Soft, pink and damp (I have very sweaty feet).

My daughter, who is thirteen, had never ever seen me dance. Well, I started to, because I can now, and she became absolutely hysterical. Funniest thing she's ever seen! (I used to love to dance!)

I've even offered to take my daughter skiing. Skiing! I won't ski myself, but just getting in the car and going someplace was way more than I would do willingly.

Getting this stuff delivered to the body in a reliable, timely way is presenting a problem for me, but there are ways to do it.

I've been writing all day, so I have to stop for a while, but I need to share this information with other sick people. If byou know anyone with AIDS or CFIDS or Lyme disease or gulf war illness, suggest they try it. But also make sure they get informed about it first, and get a safe form. It's been truly miraculous for me.

ET

A physician friend of his who is open to alternative healing was supportive of him giving it a try. He wanted me to try it also, but I was concerned about what was on the Internet about it. (We must have seen the same things!)

That's an amazing story, ET. Congratulations on your healing! How are your eyes doing? Are you still able to go without your glasses?

:)

So I usually do.

But if I don't have them on, I can still make stuff out. It is blurry, though.

BUt honestly, 10 years ago I could make stuff out, and then I couldn't anymore.

The ringing in my ears is diminishing, too. But today I am having a Herxeheimer reaction, which doesn't feel too good.

Sovereign Silver!

If you are chronically ill, though, you need to take it very, very often.

I am worried about all the people with AIDS who don't know about it.

Take the best cellular/tissue/intestinal cleanser available in the world (that I know of) -- an herbal formula from Awareness Corp. It's a little expensive but BOY! is it worth it. Google Awareness corp. Oh, it's called Experience.

Congrats on discovering CS!! Amazing stuff.

I will look that up.

Truly wonderful to hear you are experiencing such relief.

I have used Homeopathic Argentum Nitricum (silver nitrate)successfully for years to help me heal from many of my chronic pains, especially mental.

:hug:

DemEx

-- that's what they put in babies' eyes when they are born, isn't it?

Then their little eyes swell shut, and the lids get all peely and red, and your beautiful little newborn infant has upset eyes for a week or so!

When it's homeopathic, how do you use it?

I have a chronic muscle disease called Polymyositis and I am very familiar with muscles that are contracted and "knotted" up. I also have Celiac disease (gluten intolerance) and I am having very good results with my muscle problems being on a gluten-free diet and getting stronger every day. But I am intrigued by your experience as I have always been afraid to try colloidal silver. Can you point me to any websites with information? Thank you for sharing your experience.

Love and light,
Bluestar

Sorry.

I do not think this site is correct. I think the ionic silver is better. Please check out articles on:

www.silvermedicine.org and www.natural-immunogenics.com.

Especially, this study: http://www.hydrosolinfo.com/articles/silver-2004-12-22.php

I'm not sure if I'm really celiac or not.

People with CFIDS tend to have leaky gut syndrome, and thus become sensitive to many things that they eat -- because they leak out of your gut, and your immune system makes antibodies to them.

I use sovereign silver, made by Natural-Immunogenics. I chose it based on info at www.silvermedicine.org, and then at their own site, at www.natural-immunogenics.com.

The silver medicine site may be some kind of a false front thing by Natural Immunogenics, I do not know. But they are the ones with real research, with real data, that you can look at and confirm.

I also have an experience to share -- I ran out of it, and was forced to buy another kind. Which I used for ONE DAY. Then the next day, which was yesterday, I went back to Sovereign Silver.

I had a herxeheimer (sp?) reaction for the first time in about a week. They had kind of stopped. To me, that means my little unwelcome visitors had repopulated considerably, and when I started using Sovereign Silver again, a lot of them died, releasing many toxins, making me feel like shit once again.

Natural-Immunogenics also makes Argentyn, which is for medical professionals.

The whole argument about the colloid really had me confused. So this ISN"T really a colloid, it is something closer, seems to me, to a solution. They call it hydrosol, that sounds like a solution to me. And the charge is important. So, although it's always been called colloidal silver, it seems the thing that works best isn't really colloidal. But since it's always been called that, it is still referred to that way.

There are indeed other types of formulations that can cause your skin to turn gray, and which do not work so well, but which might be more akin to a colloid.

I'm sorry I don't have all this down. But there's a great deal of info on www.silvermedicine.org.

Honestly, go with Sovereign Silver -- that's my personal advice, strictly personal -- and give it a try. What a realief!

What a miracle!

Don't keep it a secret!

However, it is still ILLEGAL for companies that make this stuff to suggest that it can cure anything. That's why it is called a supplement, I think, for "immune support".

I will be studying my tail off for a few days and I will also have my holistic doctor test me for this silver to see if it can help me.

I'm so happy for your healing. Here's sending you love and light for continued good health and progress!

Just a word on the gluten intolerance, there is a book out that really opened my eyes regarding gluten intolerance and auto-immune diseases. It is called "Dangerous Grains". It confirmed something that I had suspected for awhile. Do you know you can have Celiac with NO symptoms? Also, the gluten attacks healthy tissue in more than the stomach--also the heart, brain, nervous system and many other areas of the body. The book contends that the Celiac is the basis for most auto-immune diseases. In my case, the muscle disease manifested first and the Celiac did not show up for several years. Many people have been completely healed from their auto-immune diseases when they have been gluten-free for several years. I'm going on 16 months GF and I'm feeling better every day.

The book pulls together medical trials and reports that substantiate all the claims they are making.

When they did the biopsy, it didn't show up. bUT I had been gluten free for a while before I had the biopsy.

I think I do have it, and I think my mother did, too. She bruised horribly easily -- was just covered with big bruises. Vitamin K deficiency.

When I was getting really sick and eating lots of gluten -- I was on a baking binge! -- I started bruising just like my mom. When I quit eating gluten, the bruises went away. When I ate some again, they came back. They're gone again.

But my mother also developed, they think, something called Wernicke's encephalopathy, which is a dementia caused by poor nutrition. Alcoholics get it, elderly people can get it because their absorption isn't so good. Celiacs DEFINITELY get it.

Nobody even considered that, though. She almost died. Lost her marbles entirely. Couldn't even swallow food. So then she started to starve to death. She couldn't speak, didn't recognize any of us.

A while after they put a feeding tube in, she just woke up one day. Sat up and said, "Ellen?" There she was. My mom.

All she needed was good nutrition.

She dearly loved bread and pastries. I can see those huge bruises all over her big as day. Her purse strap would make a black and blue mark 7 inches across.

Dear Blue Star,

Please consider trying Sovereign Silver.

WOuld you mind telling me what poliomyositis is? I tried to find a definition of it, but could not. Is it related to scleroderma?

I am very, very suspicious about many chronic diseases these days. Please, if you can, get the book Project Daylily by Garth and Nancy Nicholson, both Ph.D's.

It's about biotech in the BFEE crime family, and is very scarey.

What you have may be caused by a microbe, is probably caused by a microbe. If it is, silver will help you.

Or is it related to post-polio syndrome? (forgive my nosiness, please, just want to be helpful.)

ETM

It's polymyositis--I think you were thinking of poliomyelitis? Anyway, they are not related. Polymyositis is an auto-immune disease which attacks the muscles and eventually, the organs of the body. It is related to Inclusion Body Myositis (IBM), another disease which attacks the muscle but not the organs. I was diagnosed in 2000 with Poly, and my doctor now thinks it is IBM but due to my holistic work, can't get an inflamed muscle in which to do a biopsy. The good news for me is IBM does not attack the organs, so it won't kill me anytime soon, it just makes me weak and unable to walk well, get up and down stairs and from low sitting positions. Many myositis patients are bed-ridden and I believe I would be too if I hadn't found an excellent holistic doctor.

I have heard of some polymyositis being caused by a viral or bacterial infection, but that isn't the case with every patient. If you're really interested you can go to myositis.org.

I appreciate the book recommendation. Regarding Celiac, maybe it's my conspiritorial nature, but I believe that corporations have altered the gluten grains (wheat, barley, malt, etc.) to screw with our health and well-being. I just read an article today about GM potatoes and how Monsanto hid their studies that said the GM potatoes destroyed the organs of the animals being tested and sold the GM potatoes to Russia. It seems oh-so-logical that they have done something similar with wheat over time.

Since being on a gluten-free diet, I am off of all medication and my CK numbers (measures muscle inflammation) are coming down over time, soon to be normal. So you can see why I believe that Celiac is the key in my particular case.

I am happy for you that it seems to be working. It sounds like by now you must have tried everything.

I wish for continued improvement and relief for you.

:)

And please, if you know anyone who is chronically ill with MS or fibromyalgia or Lupus or rheumatoid arthritis or scleroderma, or even HIV/AIDS, suggest that they try this out.

But they should use the instructions for the "chronic immune challenge".

ETM

I am glad this has worked for you. I was diagnosed with a thyroid problem recently and I love hearing about other people that get relief from alternative remedies (which really can work well given a chance.) I will keep colloidal silver in mind should I get muscle problems.

Because, you see, there is a possibility that your thyroid problems -- is this Hashimoto's, by any chance? -- could be connected to an auto-immune thing, and that auto-immune thing really could be the result of --

-- a stupid infection your sweet, honest, trustworthy government doesn't want you to know about.

I should stop here, I'm still at work. Have a lot yet to do.

But I will PM you eventually.

Is it Hashimoto's thyroiditis? (I think?)

I am on the fence with what I have -- the doc brought up Hashimoto's, but it could just be subacute thyroiditis which is more like a one-time infection that puts your thyroid out of whack with effects ranging 6 weeks to a year, and can occasionally damage it permanently where you have to take thyroid hormone. I was way hyperthyroid (overactive) with low radiation uptake when I got tested the first time. This was after being IMHO misdiagnosed with a mood disorder (many of the symptoms overlap) and put on drugs for it. Never felt so sick in my life and everyone was pretty much treating me like I needed to be committed except my wonderful husband. I still very much resent the psychologist for not screening for a common medical issue, and, many of the women in my life for treating my range of physical complaints as "all part of being a woman" or "in my head" after the "Nice Authority Figure who Must Know More than Us" labeled me psychologically...

Anyway, after all that drama I found out I have a family history of thyroid issues on both sides, one grandma is on Synthroid and one has a goiter. That is probably why my doc is follwing me closely. Currently I'm getting blood work every few mos. and am not on any thyroid meds. My current herb-vitamin-OTC cocktail, while working fair to well, has me around 20+ pills a day (bleh)

There is an epidemic of chronic illness in this country, in the whole world, actually. I'm afraid some of it has been created by our favorite criminals in power.

The book I mentioned above, Project Daylily, is about that. It's a true story hidden in fiction, and it is truly terrifying.

Many, many illnesses people have today are perhaps caused by Mycoplasmas or viruses. Mycoplasma has been implicated in CFS, AIDS, rheumatoid arthritis -- and other immune disorders.

Mycoplasma in particular can contaminate vaccines and such, without anyone noticing, and they can make you quite sick, although the medical community typically thinks they do not.

But when they do, they do really nasty things like stealing parts of your cell membranes, and wearing them. Then your body makes antibodies against those pieces of your own body, and voila, you have an auto-immune disorder.

People have been curing rheumatoid arthritis by taking long-term antibiotics recently, to kill mycoplasmas. Which aren't really susceptible to antibiotics, not the same way that bacteria are. But they are inhibited by them. But silver is another thing, and it will kill mycoplasmas.

I think I should take the time to prepare a thorough post about this stuff. It will take me a while, though.

ETM

edited for clarity

Congratulations, emcguffie! This is wonderful! I can hardly imagine what it must be like to feel so much better after so many years of this illness.

Did you guys know emcguffie is my neighbor? Well, pretty close, anyway. She is about three blocks away and I pass her charming house often on my way to work and the supermarket. In fact, her house is so pretty and so unique that I once considered buying it myself (back at the time she bought it--when it was on the market)!



Cher

It's great to have someone from here who is local. Her house sounds so charming! :)

I'm so happy that good things are happening in her life.

So darned nice! Kind!

What a different place this is than out there!

I'm going to, sometime this weekend, try to put together a thorough post about chronic illness, biowarfare, bad people, and good medicine.

Yes, it's been a long slog and I've learned a lot of terrifying stuff I wish I didn't have to learn.

Like, that there are really mean people making us sick, for one thing. :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat:

It could be accidental, but they are very deliberately creating new illnesses.

Did you know that the very first case of Lyme disease was not at Old Lyme, Connecticut, but was just across the water from Plum Island? Do you know what they do on Plum Island? I bet you only need one guess, once you know that the federal government owns or has possession of or control of that place. It's a federal facility, in other words. Laboratories.

Actually, I don't know if it is currently, but I think so.

Do you have time this weekend?

But I also have offered to take my daughter somewhere to go skiing, for the first time.

Because I feel so much better, I can!

Not that I will ski. I will drive the car.

ETM

It was your favorite brand. I thought I might try some for my muscle weakness and pain in my legs. I will let you know and thanks for the heads up.

If you recall, we both have the same illness.

Unfortunately I didn't have much luck with the Colloidal Silver; for me it was acupuncture that really helped (and continues to help) me (along with NAC, self administered B12 shots and sleep meds).

However, much of what you described - the effect the colloidal silver had - was very similar to what I felt with acupuncture, from the very first time onwards.

I've always encouraged anyone with this illness to explore (but be wary of being exploited - I've seen enough of that, too). Allopathic medicine has very little to offer.


I hope you continue to improve! :hug:

-- but I want to, with you, especially.

I would like to compare notes with yopu -- but later on!

Busy busy time at work.

When you have a chance, PM me. It would be great to compare notes.

I am feeling much better than I have in years. :hi:

Place a space between day and lily if you search the web. Only one site comes up (came up for me) when I ran daylily together. The web is full of Project Day Lily if you separate them.

seems very important. If one doesn't have a particular immune problem, will it just not do anything, or will it be protective for the body?

-- so they say.

Because we're all so depleted of trace minerals, for one thing.

A tsp a day (might?) keep illness away!

In my med cabinet too
You can make your own you know.

you'll need three 9-volt transistor radio batteries, three battery snap-on lead connectors, 2 insulated alligator clips, 1 "grain-of-wheat" 24 volt 40 mA sub miniature incandescent bulb, a foot of 3/32" heat-shrink insulation tubing, a foot of 2-conductor stranded insulated wire for clip-leads, a small box to put it all in, and 10" of pure silver wire (.999 fine). This should cost under $30.00 for everything. Assuming some skill with a soldering iron, you should spend about thirty minutes constructing the generator. ...

http://www.keelynet.com/biology/colloid.htm
http://educate-yourself.org/cs/csgendesc.shtml
Already made generators
http://www.silvergen.com/informat.htm
http://www.elixa.com/silver/silverpulser.htm

Where to get pure .9999 silver...
http://www.ccsilver.com/silver/fines.html

I got one, and some silver wires and I always got colloidal on hand this way my herbal store was charging 11 bucks a bottle,
So I make my own, now.Really saves the bucks this way. And I even re-use the nice light filtering cobalt blue glass bottles with the glass dropper lids leftover from when I used to buy the colloidal silver to keep the silver I make fresh in now .For the cost of three bottles(for the generator and wires) I got an unlimited supply and three nice ass glass storage bottles too!!

This one silver is rewally good, better than anyone can make at home. And I expect to take so much of it, I would prefer to keep my exposure to it down as much as possible.

WHen I get to a maintenance situation, then I'll make it.

with the silver making thing. They do seem to charge alot for the stuff. I thought I might try some first, and see if it seems helpful. I am planning on checking out those sites you posted though. Thanks for all of the links. Amazing that you have figured out how to make your own!

-- for a while.

If it's just basic support, that's different. But I need to take tons of the stuff. And the smaller the particle size is better, and it's better if it has a charge, and if there's no protein --

Otherwise you can get argyria -- turn gray.

But I will definitely end up making it.

I hope that you can find some other supplements that will boost your immune system. It seems to me that if the silver helps, there must also be things that would complement that. Taking so much of it probably wouldn't hurt you, but aren't there some other minerals that would add to its effect? I'm glad that it is being such a big help to you, though. I tried taking the sovereign silver (the other day), and took a few doses but didn't feel anything. It might be good for some probs and not others. I don't have a particular problem, just low energy and I get easily exhausted- so maybe c. silver isn't the thing that would help that.

good from the c. silver on the 3rd or 4th try- it would be difficult to explain, but I felt that it calmed my body and at the same time gave it more energy. So, again, thanks for mentioning the brand that you like, etc. I plan to continue taking small amounts of it, and I have also been wondering if taking gold could be beneficial as well- have you ever tried that? Or is silver for some reason the most powerful healing agent you can take for your illness?